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County Bicycle Plan Could Include Bike Boulevard With Traffic Slowing Measures

The Los Angeles County Master Bike Plan was presented at a meeting at the Altadena Library on Tuesday night.

 

County officials presented a bike master plan Tuesday night that could include an east-to-west bike boulevard that would span Altadena and could include traffic calming measures designed to slow drivers down.

The proposed bike boulevard would run along Harriet Street, then switch to Calveras Steet, and wind through Mendocino Street, Midwick Drive, Glen Canyon Road, and down Coolidge Avenue (the proposed boulevard route is highlighted in purple on the map on right). 

The idea would be to provide marked bike lanes and signage, and possibly also physical barriers called "chicanes" that would jut out into the road, narrowing it and forcing vehicles to slow down, according to Abu Yusuf, the county's bikeway coordinator (a photo of a chicane can be viewed here).

Those barriers or any other measures designed to slow down traffic would only be implemented if there was a clear indication of community support, Yusuf said.

"We'd want to hear from stakeholders on how it would impact them--from business owners, residents," Yusuf said.

Besides the bike route, the county's bike plan also calls for miles of bike routes in Altadena, which are streets that the county advises as most safe for cyclists.  There would also be new bike lanes painted on the shoulder of Marengo Avenue, Lincoln Avenue and Woodbury Road.

Local cyclists could also benefit from a distinct bike path system in the Eaton Canyon Wash flood control area that is being proposed under the plan.  If completed that bike path would run eight miles and link up with the Rio Hondo Bike Path, providing an stretch of un-interrupted bikeway from the border of Altadena all the way to Long Beach.

The problem, as it often is, is that the county does not yet have any committed funding for the project, and consequently, there are not any set completion dates for any single portion of the plan.

Yusuf said the county will continue to seek funding where it can, applying for grants for individual parts of the plan. 

As for the chicanes, Altadena's neighbor to the south has had some experience with them.  Until about six months ago the barriers were installed in a residential neighborhood on South El Molino Avenue.

The neighborhood had had problems with through commuters from South Pasadena, Alhambra and the 10 Freeway coming through on the wider portion of the road and not slowing as the road narrowed and went into the residential area.

After a two year test period, people in the neighborhood voted to have them removed, which they subsequently were. 

Pasadena Councilman Terry Tornek, who represents the area, said the number one complaint was that the eliminated street parking.  Residents also said that some motorists crashed into them rather than slowing down, and speed data from the city showed that drivers got used to them and learned how to navigate the street without slowing, Tornek said.

"Many people hated them from the start," Tornek said.

As the plan is still in draft form, the chicanes or other traffic slowing measure are very much up in the air.  Those who want to submit an official comment on the plan to county officials can do so online any time before May 20.

Dorothy Wong, a local cycling advocate who attend Tuesday night's meeting said that while a lot of the plan is still vague, she is encouraged by any plan that encourages cycling.

She said though, that Altadena has a long way to go before most people are comfortable biking on the roads.

"Ultimately if you want to grow cycling, only 1 percent of people are like me are on streets, where they are not that worried about car traffic," Wong said.  

She noted that the county surveyed riders and found most wary about biking on a lot of county streets.

"Sixty percent of people who are interested in biking probably are not fearless and are too worried about their safety to try it," Wong said.

She said that even though she bikes frequently, some of the streets where the county is proposing bike lanes still make her feel nervous to ride.

"I don't feel comfortable riding on Lincoln or on Lake even if they painted in lines and made it a bike lane," Wong said.

Do you think having a bike boulevard with traffic slowing measures is a good idea for Altadena? Tell us in the comments.

Alexander

3:35 pm on Wednesday, April 6, 2011

Wow. I'm fairly new to Altadena but I already know Harriet St pretty well. Good luck getting anyone there to obey any sort of traffic calming. Countless cars, suvs and motorcycles fly down the street there all the time. I'm sure chicanes would work at first, until they get used to them like they did in South Pasadena and continue their speeding. Also, what about the fire station on Harriet/Lincoln? They use Harriet ALL the time, they don't speed and never turn on the sirens (thank you!) only their lights when they use Harriet, but I'd bet it would be a hassle to have to navigate chicanes/speed bumps.
I have also observed that towards Fair Oaks, there are tons of cars (where do they come from?) parked all the time so I'm sure the residents wouldn't be happy losing all that parking space. As a resident, I wouldn't mind something that makes the community better and safer for everyone but as a realist, this will never work.

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michele Zack

9:04 am on Thursday, April 7, 2011

I am pleased that this important discussion has at least begun. I didn't attend, but heard from others who did a very important message: the county has switched its official focus from thinking narrowly about moving cars, to the real issue, moving people. This constitutes a wind change, and in the right direction. Altadena has tremendous potential as a bike friendly place, especially in the east-west (and west-east) directions. And biking down Lake to the Goldline in the morning to work, and catching a bus back in the evening (hang bike on front of bus) has advantages as well as gas approaches $5 a gallon and gridlock looms.

The fact that the County has come to realize that focussing only on moving cars doesn't work, and that every other means of moving people needs to be looked at and possibly developed, is heartening. Of course there are details to be worked out — and the hardest part, attitudes and behaviors must change to create a cleaner, healhier place to live.

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Kimberly Crowley

5:59 pm on Wednesday, May 11, 2011

We just moved to Altadena from Pasadena the day before Thanksgiving. We love it, and are thrilled that L.A. County is considering a designated bike path. We moved from the area on S. El Molino that had the chicanes. A chicane was, in fact, right in front of our home. They were awful! They didn't slow traffic down as motorists learned how to navigate them. What was really unsettling were the number of motorists who ran over them usually totaling the front end of their cars. The chicanes were ugly, robbed from the beauty of the street and really never worked. We were happy to vote to have them removed and were thrilled when they did which was about a week before we moved from S. El Molino! I think there are better measures to slowing traffic. Los Robles (in San Marino) has signs that indicate "special traffic enforcement" areas. They also use solar panel speed signs that tell motorists how fast they're driving. So Pas has illuminated cross walks where a pedestrian pushes the cross button and the cross walk lights up. I've noticed in the pricer neighborhoods that they have better and less intrusive/attractive measures to slow traffic. I think these measures should be considered here. Trust me: the chicanes are hideous and are a major nuisance. S. El Molino looked like a raceway with those chicanes and the solid yellow lines that were painted down the street!

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True Freedom

11:50 am on Thursday, May 12, 2011

With the chicanes, where do the cyclists go? Do they have to go around them too? If so, this sounds like an awful idea, especially if motorists dont see the chicane and all of a sudden, a cyclist weaves left to avoid it.

In the Pasadena Bike Plan, they talk about a new designation for a road (the name escapes me now), where at some point along a road, motorists would be forced to take a left or a right, while cyclists could continue straight. This would encourage motorists to cross town on the larger arteries, leaving the smaller roads for micro-local traffic and crosstown bike use.

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Dan Abendschein

12:25 pm on Thursday, May 12, 2011

That's a good point True Freedom, and brings to mind another question: if you are going to do construction and obstruct the street to slow cars down to benefit bikers and walkers, why not just put up a barrier and have a dedicated bike lane? Then no chicane problems for cars and neighbors, but still bike beneficial. Might be something for me to follow up on.

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True Freedom

1:54 pm on Thursday, May 12, 2011

Since most of the proposed route is in residential, the bike barrier would have problems because of street parking, driveways, intersections, etc.

I just looked up the Pasadena Bike Plan. The "Emphasized Bikeways" might be a good fit for the Altadena route. Check out section 6.2 with pictures here:
http://www.ci.pasadena.ca.us/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&ItemID=6442453806&libID=6442453803
or goto the Bike Plan site here: http://www.ci.pasadena.ca.us/transportation/BikePlan/

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