Fitness-Loving Altadena Residents Taking Hobby Professional
Two Altadena residents have started a CrossFit gym in Pasadena after deciding that driving to Monrovia to work out was too far. Can they make a living from it?
New business owners Peter Danenberg and Tom Scoble have a modest goal for their gym: they want to make enough money to break even. And if they can do better, then they can make it their full time livelihood.
Danenberg and Scoble, both Altadena residents, just opened a local branch of the CrossFit franchise last week. CrossFit is a gym craze that has participants switching quickly from one activity to another in a pre-set list while timing themselves and competing with others. Danenberg and Scoble were both big fans of Crossfit and met while working out at the Monrovia franchise, the most convenient CrossFit location for them to attend.
While there is also a CrossFit location in Old Pasadena, the parking there is difficult and the cost is high, according to Danenberg. He said they felt there would be community interest both in Altadena and East Pasadena in a closer location.
So while they'd like to make a real go of it in the CrossFit business, at the very least, if they can break even they have a closer place to work out while they continue to work their other jobs. If they succeed, they can do something they love for a living.
"We're just hoping to pay the rent," Danenberg said. "We'll see if it grows organically."
It's a promising business possibility and a good community asset that very well could have ended up in Altadena - the pair tried to find a workable location, but ultimately ended up on a quiet side street of Allen Avenue, just south of the 210 Freeway in Pasadena.
Why Not Altadena?
Scoble's other business, called Mother Magnolia, is a pool, spa, and patio construction trade that he formerly operated on Fair Oaks Avenue in Altadena.
The crime in the area and general appearance of his business location was not ideal, he said, and as he began to search for a home for the CrossFit gym, he also was looking for a place to relocate his other business.
Mother Magnolia now operates alongside the gym at 1830 Locust Avenue in Pasadena. And in a larger space in a beautiful brick building on a quiet side street, the rent for the two is cheaper than what Scoble would have paid keeping his business on Fair Oaks and finding another location in Altadena for the gym.
Scoble said he and Danenberg approached the owner of the property where the former Altadena Nursery was located, a lot which has now been vacant for over a year. They thought an indoor/outdoor facility there would be perfect, but the cost would have been significantly higher than where they ended up.
In Scoble's words, the property owners was "woefully unrealistic" about what rent on the facility was worth.
They also looked at a spot in the commercial plaza at the corner of Altadena and Lake, where Bulgarini's Gelato is located, but again found the rent high and the facility not as good as the Pasadena location.
What is CrossFit?
CrossFit is a nationally trademarked form of working out that licenses local business owners to start their own franchises, allowing for their own workout variations and pricing models.
The idea behind the workout system is to vary what you are doing and to keep moving throughout the workout. Participants do standard weightlifting and traditional exercises like pull-ups and push-ups, but also some gymnastics and nontraditional exercises.
The idea is to never slow down, so that in addition to body conditioning, people are also getting a cardiovascular work-out. Getting through the workout takes some strategy, Danenberg said. Because the workouts are so intense, participants need to figure out which exercises they are stronger at and need to find ones where they can slow down a bit and regain strength, and find which ones they can get through quickly.
People tend to excel with different exercises depending on their body types, Scoble said, so there is no single best strategy for getting through the workout quickly.
At Danenberg and Scoble's gym there is a big board with a planned workout for each day of the week as well as times that each participant takes to get through it.
The times serve as a motivator for friendly competitions, which is a key reason people show up to the gym to do it rather than try to do it at home.
"There's a social aspect to it that you can't get out of it with a home workout," Danenberg said.
The sense of competition becomes addictive, Scoble said.
Unlike traditional gyms, there is not a lot of equipment clogging up the gym: since people do planned workouts, there is no need for rows and rows of weight sets and treadmills.
Business Competition
Danenberg and Scoble are hoping to get people coming to them by charging a lot less than other CrossFit gyms - they charge $125 for unlimited monthly access to the gym. It includes a guarantee that there will be someone there to run the workout- it's almost a cross between a gym membership and having a trainer.
Other CrossFit locations tend to charge about twice as much, Danenberg said, and some go even higher.
If the location does well, expansion is always a possibility, he added. Neither man has given up on the idea of starting a gym in Altadena - they actually have already purchased rights to the crossfitaltadena.com website url.
Danenberg said they will evaluate where they are at in the next year or two and see if it is a possibility.
For the moment, the gym is picking up members by word of mouth, foot traffic from a local coffee place next door, and their personal Facebook pages.
Daniel E. Harlow
12:05 pm on Monday, November 7, 2011
This has been one of the chief complaints I have heard from other business owners, that it is not that county that is causing them not to locate here in Altadena, but that the commercial property owners are unreasonable about their rents. I recently looked at the rents for an office up here in Altadena vs Pasadena and could find offices a lot cheaper in Pasadena that were significantly nicer.
Meredith Miller
12:17 pm on Monday, November 7, 2011
Best of luck to both of you in your new venture...Hopefully you'll be able to relocate to Altadena in the future. We need more new and vital businesses in the area.
Jimi
8:10 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
CrossFit North Pasadena charges LESS than these guys ($115/unlimited training) and the owner's ambition seems to go way past the statement of, "We're just hoping to pay the rent." and "We'll see." He seems more focused on providing for his clients and making sure they see results.
I, for one, am signing up at CrossFit North Pasadena!
Dan Abendschein
9:56 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
Interesting.... I googled that and it appears that gym is also just opening up or has opened up recently and it is right down the street. That's great news for us consumers, but of course, may be a challenge for the business owners.
Lisa Maiorana
10:02 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
Exercise is pretty much all the same no matter what you do and no matter where you do it. You can run around the rose bowl and do crunches in your living room and save a bundle...Regardless, it's nice to see people wanting to become more fit ;)
Dan Abendschein
10:07 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
Very true Lisa. I'm a big advocate of people doing exercise they like - I like to hike and bike so I do a lot of that. Plus, it does not come with a monthly fee. However, I have to say that visiting this gym made me curious about what CrossFit would be like. I might give it a try for a month some time in the future and see how it goes. As I pointed out when interviewing these guys, if you work out with them for a month you probably will learn enough of the techniques to make your own home gym and save money, but these guys are counting on people seeing the value of working out together in a semi-competitive environment to motivate them.
Lisa Maiorana
10:24 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
I totally understand the competitive thing Dan. I lost a client the other day bc he went home and discussed it w/his wife. The wife said, well, why do we need her? He said, bc we're overweight bordering on obese and our blood pressure is sky high and how we're living isn't working. She said she'll just continue the way she is and he didn't hire me. Kudos to the people who wish to make a change in their lives no matter how and where it may be! ;)
Dan Abendschein
11:22 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
I'm sure for every person there is like that there are many more who want to pay to get more healthy though. It reminds me of a professor I had who had a heart episode and needed surgery. Coming out he knew he had to exercise and improve his eating habits. So he told us he went to buy a bike and asked the guy in the store to find the most expensive one.... because, he said, unless he shelled out a ridiculous sum of money he would not be motivated to ride it. His feeling was that he would not be able to stand having a huge waste of money sitting idle in the garage. I think spending on your health can equal commitment for a lot of people, which is why fitness centers and nutrition counseling continue even as much of the information needed to do either is freely available on the Internet.
Lisa Maiorana
11:29 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
Very good point Dan!
Revvell
6:53 pm on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
What I have found is, if one wants to become more efficient in their moves and get the most bang for their buck, plus motivated, a good teacher/trainer is important. I know many tell me they learn from YouTube and/or videos. I've seen some of the WORST form ever; some of the most dangerous moves; some of the least skilled yet, most acclaimed people doing tutorials on YouTube. Plus, a video is not going to assess what one is doing and assist them in improving, in form or motivating or inspiring.
Very often when I work with someone, they see what I'm doing and THINK they're doing what they're seeing. Whether someone chooses to pay someone to help them ~ or not ~ depends on their motivation and if they want to be efficient and skilled ~ or not.