Traffic Signals Going in at Lincoln Ave. & Altadena Dr.

Altadena Dr. is a major conduit for people who like to avoid 210 Freeway traffic.

Update: The plan to put in traffic signals is part of a long-existing agreement related to La Viña development, according to Edel Vizcarra, the planning deputy for Supervisor Michael Antonovich.  He did not immediately have exact dates on when the agreement was put into place.

Original: Locals know that one of the fastest ways to travel between East Pasadena and west Altadena is Altadena Dr., but for the five-mile segment that cuts through Altadena, there are only a handful of traffic signals. 

A new pair of signals is being installed at the intersection of Altadena Dr. and Lincoln Ave.  This intersection is especially busy in the morning when JPL employees are heading to the facility in the Arroyo Seco and parents are dropping of their children at Odyssey Charter School.  It’s also the main way out of the La Viña development.

The corner can get busy after school and in the evening as well, but during off-peak times there are usually very few vehicles passing through. 

The project is well underway, with concrete curbs installed and electrical going in.

Steve Lamb October 02, 2012 at 08:34 PM
The Community has fought against these signals for twenty five years. Too bad. And no, signals do not improve flow. The signals where the freeway goes under the tunnel to Lake were supposed to do that and they didnt, they have in fact slowed the flow at all hours they are operating.
Erik H. October 02, 2012 at 09:48 PM
I hope the change the lane positions, as currently the installed curbs have significantly narrowed the south bound lane on Lincoln. This is pushing the bicycles and horses into the cars space. Not good.
Altadena Cycling Gal October 02, 2012 at 11:06 PM
Sad. Cars will no longer be stopping at this intersection and then Casitas and Altadena would seem to be problematic with a steady flow of cars heading 35+ MPH toward the end of Altadena Drive. What was wrong with it before?
Mike Roberts October 02, 2012 at 11:12 PM
These signals were recommended/approved by Public Works almost 2 yrs ago.
Sam Churchill October 03, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Why, when Lincoln Ave., between Woodbury and the 210 remains hazardous to suspension and tires, are they using our taxpayer dollars for an unnecessary stop light at Altadena & Lincoln? I lived here for 18 years and there has never been enough traffic to justify this.
Mike Roberts October 03, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Most of that stretch is Pasadena. Only Woodbury to Luan is Altadena. City of Pasadena covers south of Luan to the 210.
Linda R October 03, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Crazy......the politicians wreaking havoc with the peons as usual. Totally unnecessary.
Robby October 03, 2012 at 05:21 PM
Yeah, I was eyeing that with GREAT concern for the horses. There's really no room for them now to be out of traffic, since the concrete thingies are eating up so much of the space. They'll have to walk right in the traffic lane if they are heading north/south. Horrible, horrible, horrible. I hope I see more riders with reflective gear or flashing lights now if they're going to be riding after dark. Also, if they don't switch these to a flashing red "stop" at night, like they do down near the Jack in the Box, I am just going to stop and then roll thru. I'm not sitting there for two minutes waiting for nonexistent cross traffic at 11pm.
Nico October 03, 2012 at 08:32 PM
Well - do something about it. Call Sussy Nemmer and complain. My theory is that the county is just itching to change zoning, and stuff people up here..low income multiple unit high density housing..first install the infrastructure and then trick us all into changing the zoning (anyone remember the "visioning meetings" where people were trying to push increased density to "revitalize" altadena..what a joke and dirty trick that would be.
Nico October 03, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Ok, got an explanation from Ms Nemmer -- this is part of the "La Vina" agreement...which mandated these signals as part of the deal allowing the construction of that gated community separated from the rest of W. Altadena.
True Freedom October 03, 2012 at 09:10 PM
You're right Nico. Lookup SB375, SCAG, and RHNA to see the laws being used to force high density, low income stack and pack housing. Then look at LA County general plan ( the housing element section) to see plans for unincorporated areas
Nico October 03, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Thanks for this important information! Now only if Patch would get a real reporter to get us information on this topic.
Dan Abendschein (Editor) October 03, 2012 at 10:51 PM
We've got a little more info coming soon on this... we have been told that it is indeed a condition of the La Vina housing project.
Robby October 03, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Well, who wanted the signals? Presumably La Vina did not want them or care about them. Other residents do not want them. Who mandated that they be put in as part of the development agreement? The County? People who didn't want La Vina to go in? And why now? La Vina has been there for, what, 10 years now or something like that? Amazing that we've been able to make it a decade without needing these lights. I'd be totally up for just forgetting about the lights at this point. Let's call it good.
Ivan G October 03, 2012 at 11:45 PM
There is insufficient public transit for that.
Lisa Hastings October 04, 2012 at 01:06 AM
I wonder if any of those who are complaining about the Lincoln Avenue light have complained about speeding on that same street.
Sharon October 04, 2012 at 05:13 AM
I remember the county telling us after their traffic studies years ago, that there was not enough traffic to warrant a signal there. Glad they changed their minds.
Erik H. October 05, 2012 at 06:24 PM
Is there any way to find out the layout of the new intersection? Who would we contact to access the traffic layout or design? The north/south lanes seem squeezed now by the large cement curbs, and I'm very concerned about ample space for horses and bicycles.
yeahian October 08, 2012 at 09:03 PM
so agreed the work paving work done by Pasadena is that of a drunk 12yr old.
yeahian October 08, 2012 at 09:07 PM
those two are not related they currenmtly stop at the stop sign and speed from there. mostly by the pool and park.
yeahian October 08, 2012 at 09:07 PM
bicycles have the same room as cars.
Erik H. October 11, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Is there any update on this construction? The paint markings are going well up Lincoln towards Loma Alta and now a crew is digging right near the Community Garden? Who can we contact about what is being done?
Kiki S. October 17, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Does anyone know the name of the construction company? One of their guys, presumably a supervisor, flipped off the lady in front of me who was stopped at the construction, in full view of my children and the other school children at the local charter school. I'd like to get a hold of someone at the company and let them know how the workers are treating the locals.
karen December 11, 2012 at 01:28 AM
I have lived here for 6 years and have never saw enough traffic to merit these signals. Have there been too many accidents, or incidents of speeding in the area?
Gene Stevenson December 11, 2012 at 02:19 AM
I counted 14 light standards on the four corners of Lincoln and Altadena Drive, enough to have us all blinded by the lights. What is the standard for standards for a not so major intersection like L an A Drive? How about those outsized islands or whatevers(??) this company brought in? They along appear to be traffic hazards in the making - just misjudge a turn one day/night Altadena, Altadena. Our concern has been the blight at that intersection, not traffic lights! Someone misunderstood, obviously.
Nico December 11, 2012 at 02:43 AM
Today was a total mess there. A huge backup of cars going to the school for pickups blocking the intersection east-west. Cars trying to squeeze past N-S past jackhammers, broken concrete...and horses and kids walking home weaving in and out of traffic--no one to direct traffic. It is a really dangerous situation down there, and the county needs to step up and regulate this mess before someone gets run over.
Reiu K December 11, 2012 at 02:51 AM
Same issue with the North bound lane. Horses will have to walk along the roadway to enter intersection. The issue with horses, after sunset it's very difficult to see them on the road way. Horses don't have lights or reflectors and the riders often wear non reflective clothing. They could at least wear reflective vest at sunset or darkness. I do hope the horse riders will exercise caution at this intersection.


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