Site Soliciting Bids for Work on Altadena Walmart Express Market

A construction site has a listing up for a bid for construction work on a "Altadena Wal-Mart Neighborhood Mkt"

We wrote at the vacant supermarket site at the intersection of Lincoln and Figueroa.

While we have been unable to confirm whether or not a deal is in place between Wal-Mart and the property owners, the a website advertising chances to bid on local construction jobs has listed the "Altadena Wal-Mart Neighorhood Mkt" as a job to bid on.

The listing does not have an address attached to it - the site, McGraw Hill Construction Dodge Lead Center, charges $59 to view the specific details of the request for quotation.  

Gene Detchemendy, the broker representing the property owners, told Patch he has no comment on the bid listing or on negotiations with any company to open a market there.  He did note that he believes a supermarket project can bring 60 new jobs to Altadena.

The Walmart Public Affairs Department did not return calls requesting comment for this story.

Update 9:30 a.m: Tim Rutt over at the Altadenablog has some more of the documents published on his site, which list the address of the vacant lot at Lincoln and Figueroa as the site of the project.


Meredith Miller June 20, 2012 at 08:19 PM
Thanks Angela - looks like I've got some advertising to do!
Dan Abendschein (Editor) June 20, 2012 at 08:37 PM
You should show everyone a picture of the little delivery van - it is very neat-looking. It seems like every time I go on a bike ride I bump into it.
Liz H. June 20, 2012 at 11:19 PM
Ouch! Sounds like Dan needs to be more careful.
Dan Abendschein (Editor) June 20, 2012 at 11:22 PM
@Liz H - You know, considering writing is a key part of how I make my living you think I would chose my words a little more carefully. : )
Daron Anderson June 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM
It's a mixed bag for me. Local? Chain? Depends on what I need. My family and I moved to Arcadia recently. Seven miles from home, its not that far. In our building we have another neighbor from home too. I do miss home, but I forgot about the area here... Wal-Mart and Home Depot as well a Best Buy and Target are with 5 and 10 minutes away. The mall, and Arboretum is over there too. Grocery Stores? American, Mexican, Chinese, Korean, Japanese? It's all here. (Arcadia is 9 mi sq) So Walmart wants to move in. Good. That building has been vacant for years. Any market would be good. We could have had a Home Depot years ago (separate location) Until Altadena becomes a CITY, and sets a master plan, and exercises eminent domain on some land, we will never have more.
Martina June 21, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Since I'm not and never will be a Walmart shopper, I have to wonder what is the difference between the groceries sold at SuperKing (a few.blocks away) and the groceries at a Walmart??? We shop local but won't do Walmart.
Alison Johnson June 21, 2012 at 01:39 PM
One thing I LOVE about shopping at Webster's is that when I walk in, the people greet me by name! My privacy preferences are different from Nico's, above, but Michael and Meredith can accommodate us both. I will have no reason whatever to shop at WalMart Altadena.
Tamlyn Wright June 21, 2012 at 01:51 PM
I think supporting the presence of a company that does not pay it's workers a living wage does a disservice to our community, especially in the West Altadena corridor, which even in this economy, has been improving . Walmart is notorious for keeping workers at part time to keep form paying any kinds of benefits, and keeping racial and gender minorities from management positions. Do your research, friends. Just as I won't cater to companies that are discriminatory towards gays, I won't be giving $1 to Walmart, but rather gladly pay a bit more to Websters. Any pocket change I would save there, I'd rather pay to support a living wage and a company with the community's values at heart.
Jimmy Moss June 21, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Speaking of Super King..., although it is a local to LA, recent success story, it is non-union, and has made it tough for it's employees to earn a living wage. They place their stores in struggling neighborhoods, where people appreciate the low prices, and the jobs they bring. It sounds very much like the Walmart strategy, doesn't it?
terry Morris June 21, 2012 at 04:51 PM
Thank you Tamlyn! Walmarts practices are so utterly abhorrent I cannot imagine how anyone could shop there. And if you can stomach how they treat their employees, the practices of the companies whose goods they sell, how do you stomach how they perceive the communities they serve. They are not setting up a store on Lake or Colorado are they. No, once again they move into a low income area, and sell them goods that will keep them unhealthy and poor. Higher medical costs due to toxic foods, will impact family income, means less money for education and other opportunities that can change. economic futures. It is a vicious cycle. I just can't support a company that undermines and exploits low income communities.
altadena_local June 21, 2012 at 07:25 PM
While I definitely support our local shops, I am happy to see a store that will create several dozen Altadena jobs. Non-union? Low wage? Certainly. But this is how the foundation is built. I don't see any facilities lining up with the high wage union jobs to move into that space - or any space in this area for that matter. Walmart expects to make money in Altadena. Altadena should expect to captialize on the jobs that are offered and the possibility that other stores will feel emboldened by Walmart investing a great deal of money. Lets not be silly and go all Inglewood now.
terry Morris June 21, 2012 at 07:34 PM
I will not support a company that exploits it's workers and my community. I do not want companies coming in who will come in here and treat my neighbors the way that Walmart treats its workers. I want better for them. Exploitative, bad working conditions and cheap, toxic products are not the only option. We don't have to all accept the lowest common denominator. We can expect better for our neighborhood and our country. Let's go all Inglewood!!!!
Altadena Resident June 21, 2012 at 09:46 PM
WalMarts are usually found in low income areas. Although I've only been to a few, I've found them dirty, frequented by an unruly crowd, kids in diapers, open cookie packages, etc. Target and Home Depot are different, not nearly as trashy as WalMart. Home Depot suggest that people are doing home improvements, probably home owners and people who are interested in increasing the value of their property and neighborhoods. WalMart is where low income families go to buy Ding Dongs, chips and soda. I'm not opposed to big box stores, but in this case I am because WalMart is a big sign that reads "crap hole". I love that bike shop on Mariposa and the True Value store on the same street. Those are great, clean. Not opposed to those. Meredith, good luck with Websters. I've been inside once and it seemed very clean and nice. I am a bit confused as to the 4 or 5 different designs for the logo. The new script like one seems a bit creepy to me. I think people look at that different logos and perceive that it's unstable, no real identity, at the risk of being offensive... kind of cheap. I think you should consider a more professional design solution. Maybe a designer to re-image the business and create a brand. It has a history, maybe it's time to turn that history into equity.
Lori Paul June 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM
I am horrified to think that a Wal-Mart (or Mal-Wart as someone has dubbed it) of any size will move into Altadena. I will never shop there. Wal-Mart shuts down Ma & Pa independent stores that simply cannot compete with the chain's mass quantity buying power. Wal-Mart promotes unhealthy food, cheap products made in China and other sweatshop labor centers around the world, and seems to inspire the worst in a neighborhood. It attracts crime to its parking lots and surrounding area by attracting a demographic that is, well, "Wal-Mart clientele" from other towns. Wal-Mart ostensibly serves low income neighborhoods; however, its low paid employees and chronically understaffed stores are all designed to appease and exploit the masses for maximum profit while Wal-Mart could care less about the surrounding community. I urge everyone to tell the County "Just say NO to Wal-Mart.
John Hartman June 21, 2012 at 10:47 PM
This sums it up nicely. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKv6RcXa2UI
Gary Edwards June 21, 2012 at 10:53 PM
the grocery store is moving there b/c they feel there's a need to fill and the #s work for them. arroyo coop, tj's, fresh/easy didn't make a move. #s didn't work for them. way it goes. if ppl don't shop there, it'll send a msg.
Sequoya June 21, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Dan Abendschein (Editor) June 21, 2012 at 10:57 PM
It's official: http://altadena.patch.com/articles/walmart-market-to-open-in-altadena-early-2013
Sequoya June 21, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Super King only has 4 locations and Wal-Mart has 8,500 under 55 different names in 15 countries, I fail to see a resemblance.
Steve Lamb June 22, 2012 at 02:27 PM
Nico- I've lived in Altadena 55 years. I have NEVER EVER heard of anyone's prescription being disclosed to anyone else by any employee of staff person at Websters. Ever. I think it's unfair of you to somehow assume or imply this conduct would exist there.
Steve Lamb June 22, 2012 at 02:28 PM
They have had delivery service since the 1950's at least
Steve Lamb June 22, 2012 at 02:30 PM
Right on Tamlyn. There could be no worse fit for our community than Wal Mart
Steve Lamb June 22, 2012 at 02:33 PM
I dont think Super King exports their profits to billionaires out of state. I dont think they engage in direct long term local lossses to drive all the local competition out of business. But if they are unfair and unjust to their employees, I have no problem helping a union organize them.
Steve Lamb June 22, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Well I was proud that Inglewood, a community of color did not fall for the okiee doke and kept WalMart out. A job at below poverty level is a job as Theodore Roosevelt said, That has no reason to exist and is itself an injustice.
Steve Lamb June 22, 2012 at 02:40 PM
WEll "Altadena Resident" and hey first of whats your real name- West Altadena is NOT a low income neighborhood. The income level, in Census Tract 4610 is $10,000 a year HIGHER than the average income for all of Pasadena. In Census Tract 4603.01 its $14,000 higher and in Census Tract 4603.02 its $19,000 higher. The only two reasons people associate West Altadena with poverty are 1. Legends and stories of the period 1967-1977, and 2. Mostly people of color live here. Go run the numbers. If you believe West Altadena is full of poverty you will be AMAZED. Underserved, yes, poor no
Steve Lamb June 22, 2012 at 02:42 PM
Gary- there is a message I intend to send through my shopping practices at wal mart. It isnt that I or other Altadenans are so desperate that we will suffer through any piece of sh*t multinational corproatists want to shove down our throats
Steve Lamb June 22, 2012 at 02:43 PM
Wal Mart to close in Altadena early 2014
Lori A. Webster June 24, 2012 at 04:51 PM
Altadena Resident, there are four different businesses in the Webster's complex, did you know that? Webster's Liquor, Webster's Community Pharmacy, Webster's Fine Stationers and the Dazee Thrift Shop. The Webster family's corporation, with Bill Webster as CEO, owns the Liquor store and Post Office Substation, Mike and Meredith Miller are the owners of the Pharmacy, the Dazee Thrift Shop is owned and operated by the PEO (Philanthropic Educational Organization), and Webster's Fine Stationers is owned by Scott and I as the only 3rd generation Webster-owned store. Five years ago, Scott and I chose to retain the beautiful script Webster's logo of the 1960s, signifying the ties to our roots and vision for the future. We are building and reinforcing our brand with each customer we serve.
mike July 02, 2012 at 03:01 AM
STEVE please email me Mike p2c@cox.net
R .Y. Woods July 03, 2012 at 05:40 AM
Yes,Walmart will put the small business owners out of business,the Super KingMarket,Record Shop and all other business in the area. Walmart is a great place to shop but do we really need a large department store in this community?


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