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Vacant Lot at Corner of Lincoln and Altadena Up for Sale

The commercial lot has been vacant for years, but under new ownership could possibly be developed.

A vacant commercial lot with a partially constructed building at the northeast corner of Lincoln Avenue and Altadena Boulevard has been put up for sale.

The lot, which over the years hosted various small businesses--and, at one point, a church--has been sitting in its current state for six years.

Doug Colliflower, an Altadena Town Council member who also sits on the Chamber of Commerce board, noted at Tuesday's meeting that the building has finally been put on the market.

The 15,000-square-foot lot .  As late as 2010, as a place to relocate its Pasadena-based high school.  The school has since signed a five-year-lease at another property in Pasadena.

The property is listed for sale by the CBRE real estate company, but a search of the company's website produced no online listings in Altadena. 

Greg Lozano-Buhl March 21, 2012 at 06:52 PM
finally!!!
Nico March 21, 2012 at 08:13 PM
City Council should actively work with Chamber of Commerce to contact appropriate buyers (how about a mini Trader Joes?) just for one example...
Gloria McGarity March 21, 2012 at 09:20 PM
How about a Walgreen's or CVS, with maybe a mini bank inside??
Hugo March 21, 2012 at 10:29 PM
NO liquor store and NO check cashing store
CSULA09 March 21, 2012 at 11:01 PM
I live right around the corner and would love to have a TJ's close by.
Christina March 22, 2012 at 01:25 AM
A thousand things I would love there: top of the list is a really good coffee shop.
Laura Monteros March 22, 2012 at 04:20 AM
I would just love to have Altadena Market back. That was one of my favorite places to bump into friends.
Nico March 23, 2012 at 12:17 AM
So true, That little market was friendly and had a nice "country" feel to it. No idea why the owner of the land would evict the tenant, rip down the building, put up a 1980's era mini mall and then go broke. Truly unnecessary.
Steve Lamb March 23, 2012 at 02:03 PM
How Much? The problem is its only worth less than land value right now. The codes have changed a great deal in the last six years and this things permits have expired. I suspect that means the building is a tear down.......
Elizabeth J. Sawyer-Cunningham March 23, 2012 at 03:30 PM
I too enjoyed shopping at Altadena Market while Mr. Lee was the owner. He was always helpful, friendly and polite. His leaving was a loss to the community. I had high hopes that a larger market and coffee shop would be there, but never thought it would be a six-year eyesore.
jane s March 23, 2012 at 09:36 PM
Mr Lee is still running a store just down the way on Altadena - but it is so much smaller it does not compare. I believe the new construction was already in violation of code - which is why building was stopped. Probably is a tear down. How about a coffee shop AND a frozen yogurt joint? Not sure I want to have to encounter TJ traffic jambs every time I try to get home.
Dan Abendschein (Editor) March 23, 2012 at 09:42 PM
I think the challenge would be that you need to find a developer to come in and front the money - you've got a half-finished shell of a building that someone needs to invest in and small businesses would not be able to afford it. Maybe a mid-size market could invest in it on their own? Of course, if you have a developer it brings in a lot of issues about chains/local business owners, financing, parking, etc.
Steve Lamb March 23, 2012 at 10:34 PM
Jane s- yes there was some kind of a problem with the Concrete work and other problems as well. But now with the code changes three years ago and expired permits anybody investing would have to figure it was a tear down. I've talked to a couple commercial landlords but so far no one I've talked to thinks it's viable unless its lower than Land value because again, with the recent code changes teardowns have also become much more expensive.
ed meyers March 23, 2012 at 11:54 PM
About 15 mins ago I placed a call to the CBRE ph # listed on the for sale sign. I received a voice mail and left a message. I was going to ask "how much for the lot?", status report on permits, has anyone else called looking to buy it? what ideas for development have been discussed and so on. If/when I receive a call back, I'll update.
ed meyers March 24, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Here's the update I received fr/ my call back: 1. a buyer has been selected 2. in escrow now - 60 day escrow 3. it's a local developer/local ties to Altadena 4. previous permits are expired 5. option for a school at the site is still a possibility OR 6. mixed use retail/office. 7. feeling is building will be built out vs. a tear down. I asked CBRE to pass along my contact info to the developer w/ the hope of inviting him/her to the CSD/visioning meetings so they can hear what business will benefit the community and therefore, help lease out the space/s.
Dan Abendschein (Editor) March 24, 2012 at 01:13 AM
Wow, nice work Ed. I'll follow up next week as well and see if I can get linked up with the developer for an interview. Or if you get in touch with him first, please keep us all informed.
Gloria McGarity March 24, 2012 at 02:25 AM
While on the subject of empty buildings on Lincoln Avenue.. Does anyone know what the plans are for the construction that is going on at the empty building on Lincoln and Figueroa (old Thrift Store)??
Steve Lamb June 14, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Ed- How will they build out the building and enforce the code in the same way they enforce it on everyone else? Work went on already in spite of concrete being illegally poured in the foundation. I'm a member of a group helping small developers and homeowners with code issues, and other folks at this pint have the book thrown at them and are forced to remove the structure. If that doesnt happen here it could become a major pleading point about politically favored un equal enforcement. This would become the second major example of that just in Altadena...If the code is applied equally the building must come down. if not this should become precedent for everyone else similarly situated
ed meyers June 14, 2012 at 03:57 PM
@ Steve - in all fairness, I haven't followed up on this property since my last post. I can call them back for an update (will need to drive by the property for the phone #). If/when I find out something, I'll post it. I don't know if the buyer/developer showed up at the visioning mtgs.
thompsonc August 15, 2012 at 12:08 AM
Any updates? That corner is just nasty. How about some trees or something to bring some life into the area? I don't know about other residents, but I'm embarrassed that this is the entry to our neighborhood! Agreed about a Trader Joe's and/or a Starbucks.
ed meyers August 15, 2012 at 01:31 AM
About 3 wks ago I called CBRE. The phone number is listed on the property sign. Spoke w/ "Ben". He said the Pasadena developer previously mentioned in the comments section decided not to buy the property. I told Ben a Walmart grocery store was going in down the street. He had no idea. I sent him a link to the Altadena Chamber's business survey thinking he might want to share it with a potential buyer. So, as far as I know, it's just sittin' there till it sells. If others want, they can call the number on the sign and pressure CBRE to "beautify" the lot until a buyer is found.
Travis Bickle August 15, 2012 at 02:41 AM
Do you have any clue what you're talking about?
Travis Bickle August 15, 2012 at 02:43 AM
wow, you are way behind
Ivan G August 15, 2012 at 03:05 AM
There are many businesses I would like to see there, but I just don't think there is enough traffic in the area to make a business viable. It is rather out of the way, even for those who might patronize the new Walmart supermarket.
mister altadena August 15, 2012 at 04:48 AM
Dunno if it's an impactful number or not, but I checked the traffic counts at that intersection at this website. http://ladpw.org/tnl/trafficcounts/ Type in Altadena Drive for the street and Lincoln Ave for the cross street. Should generate a 2 page report covering traffic counts from 2006-2010.
mister altadena August 15, 2012 at 04:53 AM
FWIW, change the street parameters to Lincoln Ave and Figueroa (future Walmart site) and you'll see how the traffic count there is 2x of Lincoln/Altadena Dr.
Steve Lamb August 15, 2012 at 05:36 AM
Travis- uh yes. The Building Code has been revised twice since the now expied permits were let. The last revision on required steel placement and concrete size of footings and foundations was quite severe. The Job was shut down due to foundation questions specifically steel placement, under the OLD more lieniant code. It should not even with a radiographic inspection of the steel pass the present code at this point

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