Follow up on the Stop Keystone March

Why do we dither and delay about climate when so much is at stake?

It is passing strange...we accepted Bush's WMD claims on his say so,without hardly a raised eyebrow and without much evidence.  Three trillion dollars later...

Yet, with mountains of evidence about climate, many are still "on the fence".  Is it merely idealogical, is it profit driven? You decide.

Virtually all of our (and the world's) most prestigious institutions of science (that have contributed so much to our well being) state clearly that recent climate change is real, human-made and catastrophic on a scale never seen by our civilization


U.S. Agency for International Development

United States Department of Agriculture

National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration

National Institute of Standards and Technology

United States Department of Defense

United States Department of Energy

National Institutes of Health

United States Department of State

United States Department of Transportation

U.S. Geological Survey

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

University Corporation for Atmospheric Research

National Center for Atmospheric Research

National Aeronautics & Space Administration

National Science Foundation

Smithsonian Institution

International Arctic Science Committee

Arctic Council

African Academy of Sciences

Australian Academy of Sciences

Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences

and the Arts

Academia Brasileira de Ciéncias

Cameroon Academy of Sciences

Royal Society of Canada

Caribbean Academy of Sciences

Chinese Academy of Sciences

Académie des Sciences, France

Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences

Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina

of Germany

Indonesian Academy of Sciences

Royal Irish Academy

Accademia nazionale delle scienze of Italy

Indian National Science Academy

Science Council of Japan

Kenya National Academy of Sciences

Madagascar’s National Academy of Arts,

Letters and Sciences

Academy of Sciences Malaysia

Academia Mexicana de Ciencias

Nigerian Academy of Sciences

Royal Society of New Zealand

Polish Academy of Sciences

Russian Academy of Sciences

l’Académie des Sciences et Techniques

du Sénégal

Academy of Science of South Africa

Sudan Academy of Sciences

Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

Tanzania Academy of Sciences

Turkish Academy of Sciences

Uganda National Academy of Sciences

The Royal Society of the United Kingdom

National Academy of Sciences, United States

Zambia Academy of Sciences

Zimbabwe Academy of Science

American Academy of Pediatrics

American Association for the Advancement

of Science

American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians

American Astronomical Society

American Chemical Society

American College of Preventive Medicine

American Geophysical Union

American Institute of Physics

American Medical Association

American Meteorological Society

American Physical Society

American Public Health Association

American Quaternary Association

American Institute of Biological Sciences

American Society of Agronomy

American Society for Microbiology

American Society of Plant Biologists

American Statistical Association

Association of Ecosystem Research Centers

Botanical Society of America

Crop Science Society of America

Ecological Society of America

Federation of American Scientists

Geological Society of America

National Association of Geoscience Teachers

Natural Science Collections Alliance

Organization of Biological Field Stations

Society of American Foresters

Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics

Society of Systematic Biologists

Soil Science Society of America

Australian Coral Reef Society

Australian Medical Association

Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

Engineers Australia

Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies

Geological Society of Australia

British Antarctic Survey

Institute of Biology, UK

Royal Meteorological Society, UK

Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences

Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

European Federation of Geologists

European Geosciences Union

European Physical Society

European Science Foundation

International Association for Great Lakes Research

International Union for Quaternary Research

International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

World Federation of Public Health Associations

World Health Organization

World Meteorological Organization



Then why is there still resistance to a solution - when our grandchildren’s very lives, and our current prosperity is in the balance?


Here is a clue:


Secretive Donors Trust Pumps Far More Money Into Climate Denial And Inaction Than Kochs And Exxon Mobil Combined




"A secretive funding organization called Donors Trust spent the last decade funneling vast sums of money to an array of think tanks and activist groups, all dedicated to undermining the science of climate change and heading off the progress of climate policy. That’s according to reporting last week by The Guardian’s Suzanne Goldenberg

 By 2010, the dark money amounted to $118 millions distributed to 102 think tanks or action groups which have a record of denying the existence of a human factor in climate change, or opposing environmental regulations."


Their job is to delay action and increase profits by convincing  us there is no problem at all.  Most of their so-called research is funded by Big Oil and Coal.


Is it surprising with this much money behind it the doubt machine of the  contratrians would have such a reach?  Can anyone doubt a different  outcome if there were no denial machine?

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not Carl Peterson lll June 04, 2013 at 11:28 PM
If you do not have any other charts, or want to back off from this point, I will not jump on you. Neither of us are all knowing. Both of us are subject to what we will find on the internet, and subject to our own personal beliefs. If one of us does not have knowledge of something, or get it wrong, it does not mean our point of view is wrong, or that we as a person is wrong. So, like I say, if you want to skip this, go on to another point, or drop this for a while, or forever, I will leave it up to you. I am good either way, and will not jump on you either way you decide. One other idea that might be interesting is a whole different way. If you want someone to bounce arguments off, so you can make your points better with others..... ask me what I have read. If I am able, I will respond in a non debate way, as simply a transfer of information, that you can do what you want with.
not Carl Peterson lll June 06, 2013 at 03:21 AM
I am still here, open minded, and waiting for you to show me what I have to argue against. Still focused on the statement you started. The warming from your time periods, "since the LIA." A chart that is not 15 years old. If you insist the hockey stick is valid, and that is all you can do, I will look, and explain by those on your side of the aisle what they now openly agree as not correct. Most of the others who can not bring themselves to acknowledge the hoickeystick problem quietly just stopped usung it. This is very old news.
not Carl Peterson lll June 07, 2013 at 02:16 AM
O.K. so you had to leave again. I have something that you can look at..... I have one of the best links in the world. This has the whole issue on one giant timeline poster. Read it, and see for yourself if it has truth or not. Although I have not read every word, I have not found fault yet. This way you can see what the opposing views are without having to air it out here. If you only read one thing your whole life that has the other point of view, this is it. http://joannenova.com.au/global-warming-2/climategate-30-year-timeline/
not Carl Peterson lll June 15, 2013 at 03:59 AM
The IPCC changed history. first chart 1990, second chart 2010. http://a-sceptical-mind.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Comparison-charts.jpg when you find who, and how they changed history....you will know
not Carl Peterson lll September 16, 2013 at 12:21 AM
And now Jan Freed, Merry Christmas! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324549004579067532485712464.html


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