Altadena Town Council Meeting: Gas Meter Change, Tree Planting

The next Altadena Town Council meeting will take place Tuesday Dec. 18. See what will be addressed.

After different Altadena law enforcement, committees and community groups report the latest, a few groups will give special presentations at Tuesday night’s Altadena Town Council meeting.

The agenda includes a Southern California Gas Company presentation about gas meter upgrades for all residences and some businesses. A wireless communication device will be added in order to automatically read and transmit gas usage information to the gas company’s service and billing center.

The Los Angeles County Department of Public Works will give a presentation on Woodbury Road tree planting.

See the full agenda attached to this post.

The Altadena Town Council meeting will be held at the Altadena Community Center (730 E. Altadena Drive) at 7 p.m.

What items on this week’s agenda are you most interested in?

not Carl Peterson lll December 17, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Their is a large opposition to the smart meters. You can opt put, but will get charged for it. technical report from environmental research.....whether or not you believe the research, AT MINIMUM, don't have your childs bed on the same wall adjoining the smart meter outside. RADIATION IS CONSTINTLY BEING EMITTED FROM THE METERS. A research report..... http://sagereports.com/smart-meter-rf/ a lot of loud information for the rest.... http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-03-25/news/bs-ed-smart-meters-20120325_1_smart-meters-kate-kheel-risk http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?page_id=2507 http://ccolq.org/blog/?page_id=43 http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?page_id=2507 http://www.pge.com/myhome/customerservice/smartmeter/optout/ Personally I would need to really research it to complete my opinion, but their is enough questions to at least warrant the time spent reading up on it.
Marge Nichols December 18, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Oh great - an innovation to put meter readers out of work. Just what we need, more unemployed who have been trained for specific jobs that no longer exist.
Ivan G December 18, 2012 at 02:26 AM
It doesn't take much training to read a gas meter. I learned how in elementary school.
not Carl Peterson lll December 18, 2012 at 03:34 AM
Learn how to read a meter one minute. Learn where the meter is on each house.who has killer dogs in the yard, who is most likely to shoot you for being a prowler----priceless
C.O. December 18, 2012 at 05:17 AM
Learn to read an electric meter (as pictured with this article) versus a gas meter, as described in the article. Wow.
AJ December 18, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Smart meters are not going to kill anyone. They do not emit "radiation" that strips atoms off of molecules, they emit non-ioniziong radio waves similar to...radio signals! Frankly, people are in more danger from using household appliances and chemicals and eating junk food than they ever will be from smart meters or cell phone towers.
not Carl Peterson lll December 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Hey AJ, Did you look at any of the links? I am new to this subject. But with all of the chatter on the internet their is a cloudy picture of this. It looks like a small version of the global warming debate. Everyone simply finds the evidence to prove they are right, instead of finding truth. I did find more info that clears up a lot of this for me. http://energy.about.com/od/metering/a/Digital-Smart-Meters-And-Health.htm The word radio does not mean it is the same as your radio. The smart meter looks to be similar to your cellphone and microwave oven. The common answer is yes it is harmful being close, and/or for long periods of time. So although I most likely will not battle this issue, I also will not have my bedroom on the same wall as any smart meter. The advice came from OSHA, and other gov. agencies. It looks like other concerns are that: Anyone in the system can find out if someone is home, and if your alarm is on. Can connect with any rfd devices you have collect all information, use, or sell it. shut down anyone at will instantly....etc,etc..
Bob Musselman December 18, 2012 at 11:01 PM
AJ, I agree completely. The hoo-rah over health effects from gas meters is nothing but a load of baloney. Having some significant training in health physics at the graduate level, and having read numerous studies, I am aware of no plausible physical cause-and-effect relationship between these radio waves and effects on the human body, nor any statistical evidence of risk whatsoever. Who conjures up these fantasies by which an uninformed and under-educated public gets all stirred up over nothing?
SteveB December 19, 2012 at 01:12 AM
Marty, see the gas co's faq's at: http://www.socalgas.com/innovation/advanced-meter/ The transmitter is powered by two AA batteries and turns on for a fraction of a second each day, for a total of less than 2 minutes per year.
Adam December 19, 2012 at 02:16 AM
Unemployed meter readers.
not Carl Peterson lll December 19, 2012 at 02:23 AM
Hey Steve. I hope you are right. But not according to other gov. agencies.....darn, now I have to look again.
not Carl Peterson lll December 19, 2012 at 02:39 AM
Well... i changed my mind. I don't have time to go down a new hell hole of opposing internet based "facts", and data. Its one of those things where their are enough people screaming about it that if a real problem exists, we will hear more about it. The only thing is about the "similar to cellphones, microwave thing. I don't worry about that either. And by the way their has never been a gas station blow up because someone was on their cellphone while pumping gas. But we are all warned "Danger"!!! But for the time being, no beds on the same wall as the gas, or electric smart meter. But wait!!! aren't we all going to die in three days anyway? you know ....2012. I gotta go get my aluminum pyramid shaped tin hat now!!! See ya----------> To infinity... and beyond----------->
Rich December 19, 2012 at 05:33 AM
Should we bring back milkmen instead of buying milk at the store to create milkmen jobs? Or let technology allow for people to do more important jobs.
not Carl Peterson lll December 19, 2012 at 06:26 AM
Hmmmm. I remember the milk man in the early 60's in Altadena. I also remember when the school bell rung, all us kids just scattered like bugs. The car line had not been invented. And you could still find plates and silverware from the echo Mt. ruins. Yeah, I'll go back.


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