Bill Banning Open Carry of Long Guns Passes State Senate

The bill would ban people from carrying unloaded rifles and shotguns in public.

A bill introduced by a local legislator that would make it a crime to openly carry an unloaded rifle or shotgun in any public place or street was approved Monday in the State Senate.

The measure was introduced by Assemblyman Anthony Portantino, who represents multiple local cities including Altadena, La Canada Flintridge, South Pasadena, Arcadia and parts of Monrovia.

The bill was approved by a vote of 23-15, and must go back to the Assembly for an amendment process, according to a Portantino press release.  Assuming it passes there, it would then need the signature of the governor to become a law.

If that happens it will expand Portantino’s previous bill, AB 144, which bans unloaded handguns from being openly displayed in public.

The bill has the support of the California Brady Campaign Against Gun Violence, PORAC- Peace Officers Research Association of California and the California Police Chiefs Association groups.

Portantino had the following to say about why he introduced the bill:

This bill just makes sense. Sooner or later, somebody’s going to get hurt. If you see somebody walking around a mall or sitting in a coffee shop with a shotgun, it’s pretty intimidating. It’s unnecessary and it is just going to lead to trouble. I believe reasonable Californians acknowledge that there’s a proper place for firearms. But, families should be able to dine in peace  or walk down the street without worrying about being caught in the crossfire.

DKat August 28, 2012 at 08:03 PM
It is clear that many California representative are attacking the wrong people with regard to Gun Control. Any new bill passed will just exacerbate the law abiding gun owners freedom of gun ownership, but do little to crack down on the real violence perpetrated by real criminals that use illegal own and unregistered guns. Perhaps there are just too many conservative in So Cal, such as Assemblyman Anthony Portantino -- time to re-elect a different Assembly-person who know the difference between real gun crime and frivolous and unnecessary gun laws.
DKat August 28, 2012 at 08:23 PM
I know; read, proofread, post...got it. Sorry for the mess. It is just frustrating to read some of these articles, and to hear what steps are being done to continually limit 2nd Amendment Rights. Take way rights from those to own and carry guns responsibly. However, criminals will always have access to illegal guns. Portantino would like to remove all guns from hard working Americans so that they can no longer protect themselves against real violent offenders. However, in California is a crime for legal gun owner to use a gun in self defense in a home invasion robbery -- subject to time in prison. However, it is OK for a criminal to kill loved ones and let justice place them in prison for life -- at our tax dollar expense. Eventually, only law enforcement officers will be allowed to carry guns. We all know how well that works; shoot first, ask question second. Oh yeah, that was New York. For California Police it is, shoot first, cover-up or justify the shooting, tasing, or beating. California's new Judge Dredd
Margaret-Mary Salazar August 28, 2012 at 09:25 PM
What a ridiculous ban. In WA state we drive with a gun rack mounted in the truck cab, especially during elk/deer hunting season & I carry a concealed weapons permit (CWA), as necessary. I am trained in the use of firearms and am also taser certified. Studies indicate we basically have 2-seconds to respond to a life-threatening situation, that means one must be phsycologically agile in their assessment & maintain situational awareness as an individual, as a citizen and as a neighbor. The do's and don'ts for personal protection are explicitly clear in gun safety training offered by the NRA, as are the right to bear arms in the U.S. Constitution. Any fear of intimidation may be addressed by menace laws.
Robert Parry August 29, 2012 at 01:46 AM
The Crips, Bloods and Marasalvachutra were all paralyzed by the effects of this law for the brief moment while they were laughing at it. Then they went back to not giving a damn about laws. That's why they're outlaws.
Raymond Aguirre August 29, 2012 at 03:21 AM
This guy is a dumb ass!!! I never use this language here but please!!! When will you all see this is the beginning of a socialist movement. What next? A ban on BB Guns? I myself have never seen someone carry an empty "long gun" in public, not even to a gunsmith. Portantino is AFRAID of going after gangbangers that in order to make a name for himself he is going after us the law abiding citizens. Shaking my head in american politics SHAME!!
Raymond Aguirre August 29, 2012 at 03:23 AM
I am heated! Sorry for the errors. Fire that bum!
Peacetrain August 29, 2012 at 03:07 PM
"Perhaps there are just too many conservative in So Cal, such as Assemblyman Anthony Portantino". I think you are confused about each political parties's view on gun control. Anthony J. Portantino (born January 29, 1961 in Long Branch, New Jersey), has represented California's 44th assembly district since December 2006. He is a Democrat. Democrates, especially in California, favor more gun control laws. Republicans fight to protect our 2nd Amendment Rights. This is a stupid law. I've lived in California for a very long time and I have never..."never" seen anyone walking around in a mall or sitting in a coffee shop with a shotgun. It is not necessary to pass laws to address something that just doesn't happen. I have friends and family members that own guns legally and they have never carried their guns displayed in public. Why? For the simple reason they don't want unwanted attention about having a weapon. If someone is walking around with guns displayed in public, call the police and let them determine if there is any harmful intent. We do this all the time regardless if the gun was legally or illegally obtained.
Peacetrain August 29, 2012 at 03:15 PM
M-M-S, I agree with you. I might add that although it is legal to guns in a rack mounted in the truck cab, many are carried out of sight for security reasons. And, when you carry your weapon, as the permit allows, it is concealed. You are not sitting around a coffee shop waiving it around as you sip coffee.
Jeff Groseth August 29, 2012 at 03:38 PM
Good comments Raymond. So now I can be arrested as I walk out to put my rifle in the trunk of my car because I am on public land? Or From the car to the gun smith shop? How absurd. Why is our state spending time on this, when is the last time you saw someone walk down the street carrying a rifle, and when you did how far away was the gun shop where the gunsmith works? Where is such absurdity coming from, O I remember the king of absurdity Portantino.
DKat August 29, 2012 at 05:10 PM
I know I said Conservative; I believe I meant to say Far-Left, but a Democrat for sure. And I do know that both side do have differences of opinion on the matter. However, aside from labels, I feel that Portantino's actions speaks loudly of his fear and unwillingness to reason to logic -- long rifles are not assault rifles -- and there needs to be a clear understanding and categorization of the law that excludes hunting rifles from assault rifles -- instead of a blanket law that they're trying to implement. With regard to hunting, I too come from a small Northern California town known for hunting; it is not uncommon for hunters to keep their guns in the gun rack of their trucks -- which I beleive this bill is addressing, how guns are carried in public. It does not say that carrying a gun from your car, stored in a trunk and inside a case, unloaded is a violation of the bill. However, it is with all bills and laws that often lack specifics and need interpretation of the law. Perhaps I jumped the gun on Portantino's view. But I don't like constant attacks on gun control; especially when it attacks the wrong people for all the wrong reasons. Real gun control should focus attention on real criminal activity pertaining to illegal gun use, not onf registered and law-abiding gun owners.
Joel Mosher August 29, 2012 at 06:58 PM
I know I'd feel safer if I could carry a LOADED gun in public.
Crewdad August 29, 2012 at 07:01 PM
We were doing Open Carry as a last resort! Since porkytino got the open carry of handguns banned with AB 144 last year, we had no choice but the open carry of long guns as both our last legal way to carry for personal protection and to exercise our last legal form of protest through our 1st and 2nd Amendment Rights! CCW's are impossible to get in Kalifornia and the 2nd Amendment laws across the country are being torn apart and inforced differently all across the country! There is no equal protection under the law or the constitution!!!! Revolution is near!!!
John August 29, 2012 at 08:20 PM
Well this guy introduced the bill and then it got passed. It means we are not making our voices heard enough to stop these types of laws. Are we sitting back and hoping the NRA will step in? Californians lost the ability to open carry unloaded handguns already. Now if the long guns can't be openly carried, then in a closed case they're going to start calling it a concealed weapon and they will also make that illegal too, and gradually expand their laws to take away more freedoms. What can we do? Contact our local representatives, get other people involved, vote, etc. Also, go shooting more often and invite non-gun owners out to the range and teach kids to shoot. Then there will be less unwarranted fear about guns and make it less about political issues, but more about innate rights.
Bernie Samuel August 29, 2012 at 09:03 PM
Well, one thing is certain...the comments are dominated by a bunch of nutjobs
Peacetrain August 29, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Bernie, you are absolutely correct. If you would direct your comments and opinions more toward the topic of discussion, others might not have that impression about you.
Kevin Daley August 29, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Well, you may certainly disagree with them and you may believe that more gun control and fewer guns is preferable, but I haven't seen a single post that would qualify as a "nut-job." The dominant tenor of the posts, aside from anger, is NOT that anybody on the forum wants to go wandering around South Pasadena with a shotgun or rifle slung over his back. Rather, the posts are all making the point that this law is addressing a non-existent problem. There are so vanishingly few instances of people wandering around towns with long guns that you wonder why the legislature thought it was necessary to pass a new law. This law merely makes legal, safe, sane gun ownership more difficult w/o doing anything to address gun violence. It will not deter criminal ownership, use or abuse of firearms but will make it more difficult for regular law-abiding gun owners to transport their guns to a gun range or hunting lands. Think about it, how many lives do you think this law will save? Essentially zero. But it will be used by law enforcement to harass legal gun ownership.
Jeff Groseth August 29, 2012 at 10:32 PM
That is a very intelligent response, name calling. Well it work it third grade so why not now.
Jeff Groseth August 29, 2012 at 10:33 PM
Exactly Kevin
Ellen Zunino August 30, 2012 at 12:35 AM
State-wide? If so, this is the dumbest law on CA books. Rural areas should be exempted. There's little reason to be carrying a rifle down Myrtle Ave. or anywhere in Santa Monica but up in Sutter you might want to walk over to show a neighbor your new rifle. Or kids might want to walk to those places they usually target shoot. It's a shame when "city laws" negatively impact rural areas.
mark h. August 30, 2012 at 03:26 AM
Instead of railing about a bill many of you obviously have not read: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_1501-1550/ab_1527_bill_20120822_amended_sen_v96.html
mark h. August 30, 2012 at 03:31 AM
Oh and contrary to the assertion that shooting somebody in your house is a crime - it generally isn't. PC 198.5.
Last Paratrooper September 03, 2012 at 01:27 AM
Unless everyone is blind and dumb, we all should know there is a communist / socialist take over if the California State Legislature and Governor's office. What has happened every time such a group won political offices in the beginnings of their movement? DISARM THE CITIZENS! Did y'all expect anything different with radical left wingers in office in California, did ya? this is only a vision of things to come on the national level with Communists like Dianne Finestine, Barbara Boxer and the Commie Sanchez sisters!
Geo September 26, 2012 at 06:01 AM
Right on Mr. Parry. It's like shooting the messenger.
Geo September 26, 2012 at 06:03 AM
For sure! He must be bored dreamin' up this stuff to penalize the good guys. The bad guys'll have guns and laws be d*mned.
Geo September 26, 2012 at 06:04 AM
The make it a 357. Clint would approve.
Geo September 26, 2012 at 06:05 AM
Geo September 26, 2012 at 06:08 AM
Feinstein and Boxer are both, nevermind, can't talk like that in public. Paratrooper, dude, you are preachin' to the choir. CA is sunk to new lows. I mean lefts.


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