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Poll: What Did You Think of Paul Ryan's Speech?

Following Paul Ryan's speech at the Republican Convention an L.A. Times columnist wonders whether the public cares about whether politicians tell the truth. We want to know what you think.

Republican Congressman Paul Ryan’s vice presidential speech drew plenty of praise from GOP onlookers, but critics have been quick to analyze the speech, pointing out where they believe the line of truth has been blurred.

In the local media, Ryan's grip on the facts has been questioned: Los Angeles Times media columnist James Rainey noted that critics have questioned Ryan's on several fronts, including claims over President Obama's Medicare proposals, the fight over raising the debt ceiling and a claim about a Wisconsin auto plant shutting down during Obama's time in office.

Rainey wondered in his column whether the speech would affect voter's perception of the Romney-Ryan ticket:

The question is whether the public even accepts the findings of these truth squads anymore. Too many in the audience simply shuck off findings they don't like -- and troll for a corner of the Web that suits their fancy.

Recent days have already seen umpteen outlets knock down a Romney falsehood — that Obama would end work requirements that came with welfare reform. But the GOP ticket and its surrogates have just kept on flogging the claim.

While local Democratic politicians have not been quick to jump in following the Ryan speech, many have been critical of his selection to the ticket: Rep. Judy Chu, who represents multiple cities in the San Gabriel Valley, has been a regular critic of Ryan's budget plan, even before his selection to the Romney ticket.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Burbank, who represents parts of the San Gabriel Valley and is running in a new district covering parts of Los Angeles and the San Fernando Valley, has also been critical.

On the other hand, Rep. Gary Miller, R-Diamond Bar, one of the few Republicans who represents any part of L.A. County, in his primary battle earlier this month.

We want to know what you think of the speech and what it means for Paul Ryan's presence on the ticket?  Do you think he was truthful?  Do you think it will affect the chances of the Romney-Ryan ticket?  Do you think the media has done a fair job of reporting on the speech?  Please share your thoughts in the comments below.

Kate K. September 15, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Gayle, keep clicking the "Flag as Inappropriate" prompt on those spams. (That's what I've been doing.) Also sent a note to local Patch editor about them. That person posting needs her ID revoked. What In addition, what she's advertising are undoubtedly illegal knock-offs of designer stuff,including those shoes you mentioned, made cheaply by semi-slaves in China.
The MOG September 15, 2012 at 03:49 PM
@Kate, don't mean to argue, but I take acception to you're typlifing the Chinese as "semi-slaves." Only because I feel it's important to recognized that Communist Government IS slavery. The unthinkable tragedy is that Americans are forced to suppliment that slavery with our consumer dollars, and our taxes, that go to finance the debt. Pres. Kennedy never refered to Cuba, without calling it that imprisoned Island, a mere 90 miles from our shores..."
Gayle M. Montgomery September 15, 2012 at 05:08 PM
thank you, Kate. I have been doing just that. By the way, has anyone noticed that the responses in this thread have turned hanged it from a patch to a football field. I thought I was going to get carpal tunnel on the iPad scrolling down to respond. Smile.
Tee Starr September 26, 2012 at 09:04 PM
I don't trust anything that he says about The President. However he has said that that he will cut Pell Grants and Student loans and I believe that. I belive that he will cut he arts and class sizes (if he finally get his way) as has been stated.
Always Right September 26, 2012 at 09:34 PM
This is California where the voters elected Jerry Brown as governor once again. I guess those who voted for him wanted to make positive sure California goes further in the toilet. Democrats are simply stupid!!! Lastly, Jay is very observant, no Jay it's not working. If anyone believe this President cares about this country, they are insane!!!!
lifeisgood September 26, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Considering the paucity of factual truths in Obama's many, many speeches during his presidency, as well as the plethora of major gaffes that VP Biden has committed, I consider Ryan's speech to reflect politics as usual. What's most important to me is that everyone I know is NOT better off since Obama took office. Things are far worse now 3 years into Obama's administration, and Obama can't blame it all on Bush. Remember when the media screamed when gas hit $2.00/gallon when Bush was President? We're now at ~$4.29/gallon, and the media is silent. Uh-huh. We'd be fools to vote for Obama again.
lifeisgood September 26, 2012 at 09:48 PM
@Ellen, where are you getting your rumors? The GOP has eschewed the Tea Party, evidenced during its recent political convention. Besides, the GOP National Committee did not commit funds to Tea Party candidates this election year. The Tea Partyers are the religious right? If you believe that, then I have some land in the Malibu Lagoon that you should buy.
lifeisgood September 26, 2012 at 09:55 PM
@Marcus, Obama was so focused on Obamacare during his first year in office that he FORGOT OUR ECONOMY. That's unfortunate and disheartening for the many who lost jobs during Obama's administration.
Duff Strong September 26, 2012 at 09:59 PM
My vote is going to Gary Johnson. Simple as that.
SteveB September 26, 2012 at 10:09 PM
There's the gas thing again. Ignoring for the moment that a president has very little ability to affect the world's oil market, you do realize that a gallon of gas was over $4 under Bush? As a result of the financial crisis prices fell to $1.60 or so in early '09. So, yes, the price has doubled to $3.87 from that low - and still lower than under Bush. Totally irrelevant, regardless. You can have fun charting gas prices here: http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx Click on the 5 years link to see the peak under Bush, the fall during the crisis, and the gradual increase since as world oil demand increases.
Holly Hale September 26, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Johnson is a good egg, but your vote would do to him what Perot's did to Dole. You might consider jumping on the Libertarian train for Rand Paul the next time. Also, this fellow http://personalliberty.com/2012/09/13/why-americas-leading-libertarian-is-endorsing-mitt-romney-and-joining-the-gop/ jumped to the Rep. party in an effort to ensure Obama does not get elected. It's a long shot into the future, but Rand Paul might be good in a few years.
Holly Hale September 26, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Hi SteveB: Your tone indicated you're bored with the gas price issue but to many people, all over the US and esp. in CA where we are socked with additional taxes to jack it up even higher, it's an important issue. Between my son and me our gasoline costs between $100-$200 per week. That far exceeds what I spend on food, electricity and gas, gosh and maybe even phone.
Duff Strong September 26, 2012 at 10:59 PM
I gotta be honest. The lesser of two evils is still evil. I don't like what Obama has done and Romney wants to treat the US and its citizens like a corporation. If Johnson doesn't win, I lost.
SteveB September 26, 2012 at 11:20 PM
No, I am tired of people trying to make the high price of gas a Republican/Democratic issue. It is a result of world oil markets and world demand. It has nothing to do with Bush, Obama, or potentially Romney. Nothing. It is a red herring.
SteveB September 26, 2012 at 11:26 PM
btw, Perot was part of the G.H.W. Bush/Clinton election, not Dole. And although I too wondered if he cost Bush the election, it appears that Perot drew equally from Bush and Clinton: http://www.pollingreport.com/hibbitts1202.htm
Watts September 26, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Ryan was the perfect pick to tip the Republican ticket right off the edge this year. You only get one state to try to put into play with your VP pick. Choosing Ryan as VP candidate was Romney's attempt to put Wisconsin into play. Obviously that is a lost cause if you look at any current polling of WI: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/wi/wisconsin_romney_vs_obama-1871.html Ryan is having his ass handed to him in his home state, which certainly gives the rest of the country a lot to think about if he can't get any homerism love. Nate Silver currently has Wisconsin at an 87% likelihood win for Obama (up 5% just from last week). If WI is now locked on blue, Romney doesn't have room to loose a single swing state left and still have a chance to win. And coincidentally, I also see that Nate Silver's electoral map now has Florida tinting blue (62.6% likely to go Obama), when that state had been tinting red up until a few weeks ago: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/ Then you also have Romney being buried in his real home state; MI (96.6% likely to go Obama), his adopted state MA (99.4% likely to go Obama) and where Romney resides with hs car elevator, CA (100% likely to go Obama). If these guys can't get any love from their home folk, that gives most voters pause to really look into why (beyond the talk radio/Fox blitz) they should give this pair any serious consideration.
Margeaux Rox September 27, 2012 at 05:01 AM
Just reading through a few of the political blogs and commentaries to get some ideas for my book. @Holly Hale on 8/30 How wonderful to have lived the American Dream. Maybe you should write about it? Not here necessarily but maybe a book of your own. @Dave on 8/31 You're spot on about the coins etc. I read an article a few years back about towns printing their own money, which is legal. But no one can make coins but the Fed. @Gayle on Sept 6, What you wrote to Ms. Hale is condescending and vile. You took her nice encouragement toward that girl and turned it into an excuse to be mean.
Gayle M. Montgomery September 27, 2012 at 06:15 AM
Margeaux, it's been rather a peaceful day on the Patch, but it seems you are intent in stirring the pot. I do not want to have to connect the dots for you by actually copying and pasting the actual, disgraceful post that Holly decided to make that was over the edge and declared open season. Just because she has suddenly decided to bleach her postings doesn't mean they don't exist. Some of us have filters and folders. But I am absolutely convinced you will find whatever you seek to find, Margeaux, in any post you read. If you believe you want to find good, you will find it. If you believe you will find evil, you will find it. You were not involved in that post, you did not see the entire back and forth to know who precipitated what, and you are acting like a political video commentator, taking sound bytes without the full context. What has happened between Holly and I is between Holly and I. She knows full well what's been going on; you do not. Why don't you take Geo's advice and calm down. You are as i pegged you from the very beginning, a pot stirrer. Oh, boo hoo. You'll say I'm picking on poor you. If you bring, consider it brung in return.
Margeaux Rox September 27, 2012 at 08:14 AM
@Gayle, "Filters and folders" oh my! Oh, I'll stand up for strangers I think are being treated poorly. Esp. when the offending party, YOU, is so tacky you bring a woman's child into your jeremiad. It's quite alright, Gayle. You're not the only one with "filters and folders."
Holly Hale October 09, 2012 at 08:50 PM
In my search for another posting here I noticed your comment about the PO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service It is an independent agency that has not fared well with competition. Somewhere along the line you felt it necessary to point out to me the Fed is not part of the government. Which was followed by an insult by another one of your ilk. I am well aware of that, thank you. However, it is subject to "governance" and holds all our $$$
Gayle M. Montgomery October 09, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Holly, it's over a month later, and I'm not sure to whom you are directing your comment about the Post Office. Care to explain?
Margeaux Rox October 10, 2012 at 02:59 AM
Hi Gayle, I noticed her comment, too. Scroll up and you'll see good ole sarcastic BB talking about the PO. Have a nice night. Work is calling.
Gayle M. Montgomery October 10, 2012 at 06:51 AM
Ok, here's what I don't get, Margeaux. Why are you reading threads that are over a month old and just now responding. I'm not sure what you were trying to say in your comments.
Holly Hale October 10, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Good morning, Gayle and Margeaux. Margeaux's assumption was correct. My comment was to BB regarding the PO and the Fed. He tends to write/talk to me as if I am an idiot with no education. Did you get a notification I posted a comment in your mailbox? I turned that feature off but see the comments on the home page and when they are of interest to me I scroll through the mess to read the rest. I don't know who else has turned that feature on or off, but that email comes to my phone and I don't care to go over on my "data" plan. The kid has the unlimited one, of course. LOL Thanks for the response from both of you but neither were necessary. Have a nice day.
Gayle M. Montgomery October 10, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Hey, Holly. I have been wrapped up with my new Air Mac last night, working, and trying to figure out where my daughter's phone is my son-in-law managed to lose this morning. I pay for them, and thank God for Sprint family locator. We've identified the phone is still on the move and believe it is on the bus. Sigh. I'm working through the emails I got from the Patch system. I always read them bottom up because they make no sense otherwise. One leads to another and so on. I will look for your comment if I don't otherwise find it. Somebody said they wrote me one before and I never got notice. That said, did you ever read the blog I wrote about Highway Robbery at the Post Office, how our box fees went up something like 87% from one year to the next, contrary to the Post Office's published rate increase of something like 2%. The Post Office is not high on my list.
Gayle M. Montgomery October 10, 2012 at 07:55 PM
Oh, yeah, Holly, about that data charges. I don't know who your provider is or what plan you're using, but we've had great luck with Sprint. Unlimited cell to cell, unlimited data, unlimited texting, unlimited pictures, and 1500 land line minutes shared between 4 of us, of which we usually have about 1000 minutes a month left over because land line hours are 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Oh yeah, and using the Sprint Family Locator, my son in law just called, and my daughter's phone was found. He had it in his hot little hand. Going to go turn back all the services I blocked when they said the phone was gone.
Holly Hale October 10, 2012 at 08:07 PM
Kate K. BBs info was not news.
Holly Hale October 10, 2012 at 08:09 PM
@Gayle, It's too much hassle to scroll through this massive thread to find your comments. So, here..........add them to the bottom where it's easier. LOL
Gayle M. Montgomery October 10, 2012 at 09:53 PM
@Holly, Amen to that. I wind up clicking on the link at the bottom of the emailed post, then using the search feature on my browser to find a keyword. It's taking 3 times as long. Seems to me they ought to close this thread and then add a new one where we can all gather round. Debate tomorrow may do that. Interesting that the thread goes on and on and twists, but it tells me something. Even if I don't like some folks viewpoints with respect to politics, at least we all care about our country and want the best for it if only our version. Haven't found an email yet about a message in my inbox Holly, but I haven't reached bottom. When I get to the iWin, iRead them all, I'll check my profile mail box.
Gayle M. Montgomery October 10, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Ok, Holly, I'm only half lost now. I responded to this comment above, so if there was something else, let me know. I think we're caught up.

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