Saturday Updates: 2,100 Without Power in Altadena as of Saturday Night

Many SoCal Edison customers, which includes Altadena residents, are still without power.

2,100 Without Power in Altadena (5 p.m.): 2,100 customers in Altadena still don't have power, according to Gil Alexander of SoCal Edison.  There were 5,600 customers without power in Altadena on Friday.  As of Saturday afternoon there were about 73,000 Edison customers countywide without power. 

According to Alexander, the three concentrated areas where most of the power outs are:

1) The rough area bounded by Loma Alta on the north, New York on the south, Midlothian on the east, and Holliston on the west.

2) Midwick on the north, Washington on the south, Altadena on the east, and N. Allen on the west.

3) Athens on the north, New York on the South, Allen Avenue on the east, N. Marengo on the west.

There may be other isolated power outage areas beyond these, but most of the homes fall into those areas, according to Alexander.

Distribution Center to Open Again on Sunday: The distribution center at Altadena Community Center will be open from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m, according to Gil Alexander of SoCal Edison.  There will also be Edison employees walking through neighborhoods to listen to concerns and work on them, he said.

High Winds Forecast (2:45 p.m.): The National Weather Service has issued a new high wind advisory for Monday and Tuesday in Los Angeles County.  A wind advisory is also in effect for Saturday night and Sunday, meaning we could see 25 to 35 mph winds on those days.  A high wind advisory could mean gusts as high as 58 mph.  The alert was just issued, so we'll monitor for more detailed information.

Extended Outages for Some Customers: According to City News Service, 9,400 Edison customers have been warned they may have extended outages (presumably beyond Edison's Sunday night goal to get power restored).

SoCal Edison Distribution Center: Flashlights, batteries, ice, and water will be available at a distribution center at the Altadena Community Center from noon to 4 p.m.

96, 882: As of 7 a.m. Saturday morning, SoCal Edison reports there are still 96,882 customers without power county-wide.

135 Trees, $3.1 million: According to a report sent out by County Supervisor Michael Antonovich, storm damage has been assessed at $3.1 million so far, and 135 trees have been reported downed in the La Canada Flintridge area, which includes La Canada, Altadena, Glendora, and Azusa.

SoCal Edison Distribution Centers: Sheriff's Department volunteer Carolyn Seitz has sent out an update saying that a SoCal Edison center to distribute flash lights and ice will likely be set up at the .

Power to be Restored Sunday Night: SoCal Edison has announced it will have all power restored by Sunday night, according to its website.  So far, about 65 percent of customers have power back.

Latest Power Update: 5,600 households are without power in Altadena, according to Vanessa McGrady of SoCal Edison.  McGrady also said that while there is still not estimate on when power will be back right now, the utility hopes to release an estimate some time tonight.  She noted that people wanted up to date info throughout the process can check the utility's Twitter feed @socaledison.  Meanwhile, here at Altadena Patch, we will be following up and bringing you the new estimate tonight if there is one.

McGrady also said that estimates on power restoration on the SoCal Edison site are not necessarily accurate, and that residents should not count on power being restored by the listed times.

Finally, McGrady noted that more windy weather is forecast this weekend, which could affect the repair process.  She also said that some downed poles have not been reached by Edison crews yet, and people should avoid going anywhere near any wires on the ground.

Yard Waste Hauling: Bob Spencer of the County DPW says the department will not be hauling off storm-related yard waste curbed by Altadena residents.  We're asking Athens Service if they will be doing any extra loads, and we'll try to have an answer on that soon.  Spencer did say that there will be some yard debris drop-off events set up in the area for this weekend.  We should have some more information on that soon.

Knock 5,000 More Off the List: The latest figure from SoCal Edison is about 135,000 without power, according to Montrose Patch.  That's 5,000 fewer than this morning's 8 a.m. estimate.  Still trying to get specific updated figures for Altadena, and more information on the accuracy of the outages map.

Power Restored: Lt. Duane Allen of the Altadena Sheriff's Station said the following areas have had some homes with power restored:

  • Mendocino and Fair Oaks area, north of Mendocino, west of Fair Oaks.  
  • Some homes around the intersection of Altadena and New York
  • Lake Avenue around Farnsworth Park
  • Loma Alta Boulevard west of Lake
  • Allen Avenue north of Washington

The station, meanwhile, is still running on generator power, Allen added.  Some traffic lights are back on, but most are still out, he added.  SoCal Edison has not given any estimates about what to expect for other homes to get powered back up, Allen said.

Found Dogs: A couple of Altadena residents are reporting they found dogs wandering the streets last night, one a golden retriever, one a chow mix puppy.

Webster's Pharmacy Open: owner Meredith Miller wrote Patch Friday morning to let people with prescriptions know that the pharmacy is open today.  There is still no power, but people who need their medications can get helped there.

Still No Estimated Time on Power Restoration: SoCal Edison Lois Pitter Bruce told Patch the utility still is unable to estimate when power will be on for all customers.  Crews are continuing to run into new problems wherever they go, she said.

"Every time we go somewhere are crews find something they don't anticipate," Pitter Bruce said.

The latest figures show around 140,000 people without power, down from its peak at 226,000.

Bruce said she look up the figures to provide a more exact number for how many in Altadena lack power.

She also said that the figures on SoCal Edison's outage map showing how many are out of power may not be accurate.

Quiet Night: A Los Angeles County Fire Department representative told Patch there were no significant calls in Altadena Thursday night.

Power Situation: Despite a night without the high winds that were originally predicted, many in Southern California are still without power, including about 150,000 SoCal Edison customers, according to the City News Service.

That includes many customers in Altadena: a rough count of the listed outages show about 12,500 customers still don't have power, compared to around 13,000 mid-day on Thursday.

Utilities and public works crews will be back at work Friday to continue to clean up damage.

Friday is still forecast to be windy in Altadena, but not at the level of a high wind advisory: winds could be around 25 to 30 mph, according to the National Weather Service, with gusts of up to 35 mph.

yeahian December 04, 2011 at 03:23 AM
Pls file loss claims witj edison, show them that saving $ at the risk of our well being
Karen Klages December 04, 2011 at 03:36 AM
Top of Allen...still no power. SCE, could ya work a little harder?
Daniel E. Harlow December 04, 2011 at 03:55 AM
They are working hard, the bigger problem is SCE seems to have been unprepared for this and did not have enough crews on standby or on their way to SoCal to deal with it.
yeahian December 04, 2011 at 08:42 AM
the bigger problem is that they were intentionally unprepared as it is in there best fiscal interests. And the 99$ rates at the westin were and I believe still are available. Just ask for a supervisor. This is/was only at the pasadena westin.
Revvell December 04, 2011 at 01:14 PM
4:22 this morning and, we've got power!!! Halleluiah! Temp. in my office has now reached 56 degrees one hour later. lol
Revvell December 04, 2011 at 01:15 PM
Right! "Intentionally unprepared".... d'uh!
Revvell December 04, 2011 at 01:17 PM
Yes! Our well-being was certainly at stake here! We live in SoCal, not in snow country. Those who were/are at risk are those who need electricity for medical purposes. Other than that, many of us were inconvenienced but "risk to our well-being?" I think not. Poor yeahian.... life must have been so tough that this person seems to have been able to get computer access throughout this terrible ordeal....
Revvell December 04, 2011 at 01:35 PM
I appreciate the crews that worked 24/7 to get our power up and running ~ I appreciate that we live in SoCal and not some snow-laden place where temps reach well below freezing I appreciate the sheriff's department for working so hard to get so many people in to help with traffic, phone calls, and emergencies (remember, Altadena was not the only town/city reaching out for help from other agencies.) I appreciate all who responded to our calls I appreciate this wasn't a REAL emergency... just basically a trial and now, many of us know what we need to do to be prepared ourselves (I'll be writing a blog on what we did ~ feel free to add your input) I appreciate the FREE CERT training being offered so that we can learn to take care of our selves, our families, our neighbors, our 'hoods in case of a REAL emergency! (Get on Carolyn Seitz' email list for more info on that! We're looking at January.) I appreciate having places no that far away to get internet access. I appreciate life and living here in Altadena. I LOVE Altadena!
Kymm Zuckert December 04, 2011 at 02:32 PM
My power just came back on about half an hour ago, hooray! One of the dogs started wuffing, and I realized that a light was coming from the next room, and te sun wasn't up yet, hooray! I am in area 2 of the hardest hit listed above, Midwick/Washington/Altadena/N. Allen.
mister altadena December 04, 2011 at 03:12 PM
In your eyes/mind it wasn't an emergency. The term is relative based on the individual's experience(s). Many areas were declared "states of emergency" (again a relative term). "Emergency" crews were sent out. Again, for some, this was a REAL emergency...... for you and many others, it wasn't.
Revvell December 04, 2011 at 04:24 PM
d'uh, really? I think I mentioned somewhere, not going to go through all the posts, that for those who need electricity for medical purposes, yes, it was a REAL emergency. For those complaining here, probably not. They obviously could go places to receive internet access. Let's just see what happens when we have something that's really devastating to the whole county. Yanno? When I cried, my mother would tell me to stop or she'd give me something to cry about (after already whipping my butt)... my thing here ~ stop whining or the universe will really give you something to whine about. Now we've had a micro of what could possibly be the macro.... What's it take for US as adults to prepare? Huh? What's it take for us to stop blaming the county, the sheriff's department, the utility providers? Yeah, we were without power same as everyone else yet, we had candles, lanterns, flashlights, wood for the fireplace (yes, I know many don't have fireplaces), gas in the car, etc. A friend suggested we get ice and put it in the fridge. Did it. We more than survived. This was NOT a REAL emergency! Anyone die that we know of? A REAL emergency? New Orleans; Twin Towers... REAL emergencies. (And, I guess a few candles, flashlights, etc. wont make much difference yet, neither will complaining about the utility companies or the sheriff's dept.) Be thank-filled. We're all safe; life goes on in Altadena.... just a little inconvenience for most of us.
Angela Odom December 04, 2011 at 05:01 PM
I'm glad many (if not all) in Altadena have power. It was a real emergency for many here, particularly a friend of mine who is older with bad arthritis who had to suffer these past few days with no heat. She has central air and no wall heater. I still have my wall heater and it warmed the house. I had hot water and through my stove has an electronic ignition, I could still light it with a lighter wand. I had the basic needs met. I do have a chronic illness and if I had no heat, that would have been a problem and perhaps I too would have gone to stay with someone or gone to a hotel. But, as an Altadena resident who has lived here for more than 14 years, I know a lot about power going out around here. All we need is a raccoon, or some other creature, falling in love with a transformer in the middle of the night and wham, no power. Because I've endured one too many incidents like that, I'm prepared for power going out around here and, as a camper, I have lots-o-goodies for roughing it when needed. I have two big battery boosters for my cars and inverters with AC outlets on the other end. Plug in a lamp and you have light when needed. I also have backup power supplies that provide 100+ minutes of electricity. My router and DSL line were plugged in plus another lamp when needed. I also have two old-fashioned Princess phones that require no power making it easier for me to make and receive phone calls. I gave one of my phones to the above-mentioned friend.
Georgina Bidus December 04, 2011 at 05:08 PM
Revvell, I understand your point about being prepared and we strive to meet that moving target (recycling supplies etc). HOWEVER, I pay some of the highest electrical rates in the country and the UTILITY COMPANY'S substandard response is unacceptable. Period. Sure it is just a temporary inconvenience but we are paying dearly for electrical services and I expect high standards. I could on and on about Antonovich but complaining is not helpful. I am focusing my energy on building a good relationship with my neighbor(s) so we can help each other.
Angela Odom December 04, 2011 at 05:28 PM
I agree with Revvell. I had to work late Wednesday night/Thursday morning and drove home with trees falling around me and trucks continuing to push through in spite of the high winds. Cursing God for allowing that to happen was not an option. The good folks who work for Edison -- those guys driving around in the neighborhood -- were sleep deprived and continued to work around the clock. The company may be full of it but those men and women were working as hard as they could. I cannot go off on what I cannot control. Yesterday I saw big red fire trucks filled with prisoners who were out taking down limps and clearing wires for the Edison guys. They were doing the best they could with what they had. Now, if and when we have an earthquake, be prepared for the worse -- no power, no gas -- and get yourself ready for perhaps even longer waits.
Revvell December 04, 2011 at 06:18 PM
Really? Do you REALLY know the process that went into getting our power back on in the time it did? How do you really know it was substandard? Compared to what? Did you think it "should" have been on w/in what? What would have made it standard to you? This is ridiculous. I, for one, am VERY thank-filled for those who put in so many hours to get it done in the time they did. Just as people don't know what it take to handle the stuff that law enforcement handles I wouldn't even begin to attempt to figure out how to handle the devastation that happened in Altadena on Wednesday night. I salute the people at Edison and Pulic Works for the job they did and continue to do.
Daniel E. Harlow December 05, 2011 at 12:14 AM
I can tell you it was substandard response as AT&T bought in people all the way from Texas to repair their infrastructure and be more then adequately staffed, keeping most of their network up and running the entire time. AT&T clearly was prepared for this type of thing while Edison was clearly not, as they did not have enough staff or equipment on hand to make the repairs in a timely fashion. With all that said, the frontline men and women of Edison have been working hard and deserve many thanks from us all.
ed meyers December 05, 2011 at 03:21 AM
What I feel was substandard was the inaccurate, constantly changing information available both online and via phone. Estimates (yes, I KNOW they are only estimates) were off by 2+ days. By all accounts, everyone appreciates the efforts of the repair crews. What we don't know or (yet) understand are the decisions that were made to determine what communities to service first and the cooperation needed btwn diff. dep'ts to pull off restoration (i.e. SCE said they needed trees pulled off lines/poles & roads cleared before they could conduct repairs). I wouldn't suprised to see SCE reps. coming before county &/or town council to discuss their response to the outages. Who knows, maybe there were circumstances we knew nothing about that hampered operations. Or maybe, they fell flat on their face. Time will tell.
John Vrsalovich December 06, 2011 at 01:26 AM
It's been tough for all of us and SCE needs to respond. That said, I personally know SCE Large Commercial Account Reps and they indicated this was an unprecedented event - five days without power is nothing compared to what it will be like after a major catastrophe like the *Big One* or similar. Personally, I'll be purchasing a whole house generator in 2012.
John Vrsalovich December 06, 2011 at 01:30 AM
Also, haven't read through the thread entirely or Patch - but does anyone know what the County will do with the large volumes of tree branches/leaves/deleterious materials lining our streets? I saw a skip loader on New York but what about normal side streets? Will Athens pick up bags? Haven't heard anything about this.
yeahian December 06, 2011 at 08:38 AM
Revell ur a volunteer correct? They should have at least the same speal as Edison as wel as any info from there first hand observations... I've spent a bit of time in the disaster center for the lapd and they do have direct connects to edison and other utilities etc. I'm sure the numerous patrols were reporting back and its their jo to know this kind of stuff.I mean if the poer as don at la county jail.... you can see here i'm going wwith that so... anyway i'm not putting down the police etc. I'm just saying they blew a chance to show that they are part of the community and their to help not just write tickets and make arrests.
yeahian December 06, 2011 at 09:03 AM
Revell you have no idea and your personal are boring. Reduced cell coverage and lack of most land lines (rotary phones possibly being the exception) is a danger to everyone. Say ur having a heart attack can't call the doctor... Its not that hard to follow. If you think everything is A okay and doesn't need improvement ell your wrong.
yeahian December 06, 2011 at 09:06 AM
Also SoCal has snow. were less than 45 minutes from a ski resort. And what difference does that make. If it were negative 5 out it might be less comfortable but it wouldn't kill you.
yeahian December 06, 2011 at 09:17 AM
not to mention the painful amount of taxes we pay. Complaining sucks but hey if you don't only the opinions of those like Revells get heard.
yeahian December 06, 2011 at 09:21 AM
in a major castrophe you probably will not be able to get gas for your generator. You maybe etter served by getting smaller Honda gens and taking a nice vacation ith the $ u save. /in case you do buy the whole house thing can I come over if this happens again. jk
yeahian December 06, 2011 at 09:47 AM
Revell yes we know the process any idiot with a computer can figure it out.
Revvell December 06, 2011 at 02:10 PM
Oh yeah, yeaaha, I know where snow is and, it's not in Altadena which is what we're talking about here. My personal are boring? So, get a rotary phone. It's time people began taking responsibility for themselves now we know what the issues are and can be, eh? I keep Heart tincuture on hand for any possibility of heart or stroke problems. I didn't say everything is a-o.k. I did mention those with medical problems. Funny how you have selective reading skills.
Revvell December 06, 2011 at 02:20 PM
Yes, I am and yes, they do have direct connect to Edison. I was one on the phones taking calls from citizens and reporting directly to Edison and Public Works about lines and trees down and yes, we had the same spiel as Edison ~ "... we have no clue when the power is going to be on." Yes, were getting reports back from the patrols about streets closed due to trees down... Whoaaaa! "...show they are part of the community ... and not just write tickets and make arrests????" Are you out of your ever-loving mind? With the help of Steve McClean, they have cleaned out the gangs in our city; they've brought in help from various agencies around our area; they called in everybody they could to slow traffic on Wednesday night (including myself and my partner as I stated before).... Yanno, try a litt;e appreciation instead of belittling people you have no clue about. The men and women of the sheriff's department stayed well beyond their shift time to assist in this. You think none of them were affected by power outages and didn't want to be home with their own families? Think again. Yeehaw.... it seems it's all about you! you! you! And if things aren't the way YOU want them, YOU have nothing to do but find ways to blame everyone you can ~ Edison, Public Works, Antonovich, the sheriff's dept... etc. Were you other there Wed. night helping out? I think not. Were you there answering phones? Nope! Quit yer bitchin' and man up.
Gary Edwards December 06, 2011 at 02:44 PM
@ revvell that's Captain steve mclean. duh, really, whoaaaa, hold on, come on now, oh yeahhh. the man has a title that he earned.
Revvell December 06, 2011 at 02:49 PM
Very correct Gary. Thank you. My bad. *holds head down in shame* (sincerely)
yeahian December 07, 2011 at 08:37 AM
athens will accept stuff in their containers


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