Poll: Would You Shop at a Walmart Grocery Store in Altadena?

We want to know whether you would be willing to give Walmart a chance if it opened a grocery store in town.

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Currently, there is no indication that there is a deal in place to open a Walmart location at the vacant supermarket location at Lincoln and Figueroa (and the land owner's representative, in fact, says there is no deal with anyone right now) but considering the contact with the county, it is a definite possibility.

So we want to ask you reader, would you shop at the Walmart if it were to open? Bear in mind, it would be a smaller store, focused on groceries rather than the standard Walmart.

Please tell us where you stand in the poll below, and feel free to leave any additional thoughts in the comments section.

Jeanette Lamb June 22, 2012 at 07:39 PM
Well, it looks like we're getting a Walmart grocery store, whether we like it or not (see the Patch and the Star-news article today. Why are we even discussing this, when we have no choice in the matter! That is why we need to incorporate, and become a city, so we can at least have some say!
trekman857 June 23, 2012 at 09:21 PM
Super King will do fine because they sell at very reasonable prices, have good produce and have a nice international (middle east, hispanic) selection of items. Also the owners are immigrants who are willing to compete in the market place and succeed. The added benefit is that competition from Wal-Mart will improve the quality, service and lower the prices at Super King.
Jeanette Lamb June 23, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Trekman, What WalMart will do, is look at all the items Super King is selling, and sell the exact same items for less. Then the loyal Super King customers will not be able to resist to the temptation of lower prices, and Super King will not be able to compete. WalMart will DESTROY them! That's what WalMart does!
Jeanette Lamb June 23, 2012 at 09:44 PM
Right on, Terry!
trekman857 June 23, 2012 at 09:46 PM
Most of the entries here are against Wal-Mart and indicate a fear of competing in the market place. We need competition between businesses so that the prices will be reasonable and the products and services will improve. The businesses that do good, better or best will continue to be around. Those that do not, will be gone. It was a result of competition that American auto industry has recently started (we still have a long way to go) to produce vehicles that can even come close to the quality, innovation and price of Japanese vehicles. The United States is great because we have the freedoms, the energy of the young and new ideas from immigrants and a democratic system that allows us to be dynamic, to change and improve. You can protest and not shop for whatever reason, but don't put up market barriers to stiffle competition. Everyone, including TrdrJoes, FreshNEasy, Sprouts, WholePaycheck (oops, I meant WholeFoods) mom and pop etc.. had a chance, but they chose not to develop and bring new jobs to the west side of Altadena. Give some credit to Wal-Mart for even attempting to invest and provide jobs on a neglected piece of land in an area known for crime and a low economic base. Since I'm not a big general merchandise consumer, I will not buy much at Wal-Mart. But I welcome Wal-Mart for improving the area. If the neighborhood gets better, TJ's, Fresh&Easy and will invest here also.
mister altadena June 24, 2012 at 01:59 AM
Arroyo's membership location map. They're not moving to the westside of 91001. http://arroyofoodcoop.com/member_map_111020
mister altadena June 24, 2012 at 02:04 AM
Whatever happened to the 2 locally owned businesses that were in Lincoln Crossing? The mail center & the Bessie Taco place? I'm sure there are people who feel there was some developer conspiracy that caused them to go out of business but why weren't these 2 independent mom & pop businesses patronized to the point where they could remain open? Were they packed with customers? Was their rent too high? I ask b/c this was a new development (yes, I know the building of it was a cluster) but some of the less than attractive businesses in the immediate area (including that smelly/smoky shoe repair place) remain open.
mister altadena June 24, 2012 at 02:31 AM
You know that Super King carries food that a Wal-Mart store won't. We have 3 liquor stores on the corner of Lake/Mariposa. They're all in business. They all sell the same basic stuff (alcohol) but have other items to differentiate themselves from the guy 200 ft away. I'm sure Lindsey has beer specials that EZ Stop doesn't. I'm sure Webster's liquor has alcohol the others don't. So....why can't two markets make it?
mister altadena June 24, 2012 at 02:38 AM
@ Jeanette - you truly believe that the Wal-Mart grocery store will carry the same exact things Super King does? All those ethnic & international foods? You really believe a Wal-Mart grocery store will come in just to copy Super King? Per my previous post, it doesn't make sense for 3 liquor stores to be w/in 300 ft of each other.... but yet, there they are!
mister altadena June 24, 2012 at 02:53 AM
Just so I'm clear, Wal-Mart bears 100% of the responsibility and the people who shop and work there 0%? BTW- the character of the community has been slowly changing for decades.
mister altadena June 24, 2012 at 03:01 AM
I would LOVE for all this passion, energy and gumption used for the purpose of getting people to stop dumping their furniture on the streets. Or keeping their yards something less than a jungle. But, alas, this is why some many people love the community! Free to be you and me!!! (unless that means a store moving into town that some don't want others to shop at. Then, "no freedom for you" like "No soup for you" to quote the Soup Nazi from Seinfeld!).
Kristen Bezark June 25, 2012 at 05:21 PM
What we really need is a Trader Joe's https://www.facebook.com/BringTraderJoesToAltadenaCa
frank cuzakis June 30, 2012 at 07:52 PM
Hi I live in Altadena I am happy that walmart is coming is better that having homeless people around an a liquor store a cross the street have anyone see the positive of walmart if liquor is cheaper at the market liquor stores will be closing around I prefer walmart than liquor store own an operated by people who live in san marino and rosemead they do not live in altadena . thank you walmart for coming..
madmilker June 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Well, after sniffing through all these comments I haven't seen not one that knows what the diamond suit means in a deck of cards. http://rumafia.com/person.php?id=1841 duh! I don't even think Mike R knows. You'll have a great 4th of July.....you do know what Independence Day is all about ......right!!!!
Steve Lamb July 01, 2012 at 01:33 AM
We already did that. Remember- we were all told to settle for Farm Fresh and then King Ranch and then Super King. it was the same song the defeatists always sing in this town- we have to settle for second or third best for the sake of the poor, because everything on Lincoln or lake is so terrible, because what else can we expect on and on. So once we went down market, now its four steps farther down and the same old song. And the same lies you know, the only thing that will turn Altadena around is Starbucks, WalMart some other undesirable multinational chain store appropriate to Irvine.
Steve Lamb July 01, 2012 at 01:33 AM
Right on Roberta!
Steve Lamb July 01, 2012 at 01:39 AM
Disturbed- well...I live on what it seems is "your side" of town. Until they closed, I used Weavers hardware. I use Super King and Baja Ranch. I Like Jim's and Fair Oaks Burger, I drink at the Ale house, professionally as a designer I use David P. Smith as my contractor of choice whose workshop is in back of the AAH, I LOVED the Disabled American Veterans before the landlord evicted them for no reason, I buy my Christmas Tree every year from Wayne, Altadena hardware is my first choice, I love the redwood at Lincoln Lumber,,,I don't know I do a lot of buying here in West Altadena.....
Steve Lamb July 01, 2012 at 01:42 AM
Laura - the bakery at Baja Fresh is FANTASTIC!
Steve Lamb July 01, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Just because the ATC will not make the final decision is no reason to not ask them to oppose.
Steve Lamb July 01, 2012 at 01:47 AM
Diane- yes i remember and miss them. But we need something? unlike a decade ago when we had no grocery store, we now have two really good ones in Baja Ranch and Super King. Besides that Ralphs is due to FINALLY upgrade their store.There is a new store going in where food fair was, what is this we need something as if we have nothing here? A decade ago that was a reasonable position, but now?
Steve Lamb July 01, 2012 at 01:49 AM
I've never dumped furniture on the street but when I was young I helped my mother collect Victorian and Eastlake off the sidewalk and I have Stickley pieces (my how times change) and a Bauhaus piece I picked up off the sidewalk.......
Steve Lamb July 01, 2012 at 01:50 AM
Neve played cards . have no idea. So what - its a GAME
Tom July 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM
This is a great move for improving the area and I have no problem supporting this and hopefully it makes the liquor store go away.
Steve and Joannie August 09, 2012 at 09:50 PM
I agree
Steve and Joannie August 09, 2012 at 10:04 PM
I live in Altadena also, I am not sure what you are referring to. I shop at Super King and will not stop, I believe Walmart will not take any customers from there. I am not sure what mom and pop stores of any quality would be put out of business. I do know the drug dealers will find it hard to continue their business. And the liquor stores that are on every corner may have to go but is that really a bad thing?
Steve and Joannie August 09, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Erick do you know of any Walmart employees? Do you really think Walmart pays less then the fast food chains in our area. The wonderful thing about America is that if you dont like the pay you dont have to work there.Is everyone forgetting the amount of drug dealer we have in Altadena,they are everywhere . Unfortunely what I have seen there are quit a few mom and pop shops that allow drug dealers to hang around their stores I wont go in our allow my family to.You know they wont be hanging around Walmart looking cool. Please rethink this. We need to do something to clean up our town. from liquor stores and drug dealers, Walmart might just be the answer.
Steve and Joannie August 09, 2012 at 10:29 PM
Trader Joes would be great I shop there also. As Altadena brings in new home owners and new taxes I am hopeful the drug dealers that either work and or live here will leave.We all know Trader Joe's is not going to come to Altadena as long as they are at every corner. Lets try and clean that up. and maybe we can get a TJ
Steve and Joannie August 09, 2012 at 10:39 PM
Where are these great little stores everyone is talking about? Bought a home in Altadena and have not seen one I would go to. I am reading a lot about how small town like Altadena is but NO ONE is saying anything about the homeless and the drugs......That is a BIG problem here. Instead of worrying about Walmart what about address that.
Steve and Joannie August 09, 2012 at 10:52 PM
;) Thank you for voicing that I whole heartily agree. I have a nice house in Altadena and my neighborhood is moving up slowly,it seem it is not the older home owners but their children and momma's daddys that are a big problem. They all need jobs and not selling drugs. The gangster and drug dealers are bringing out home values down .Wlatmart is a good thing they wont allow an unsafe environment around their store. our property value down and creating a unsafe environment for our families.
L & R Blanco November 20, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Terry, I agree wholeheartedly. Sure I don't want the liquor store, but a Corporate chain will leave no room for small shops that are struggling and may even be gaining some head-way.


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